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Originally Posted by Waynebang i
It just seems to me that it should handle a little better than it does so I wonder if something was wrong with it
No probably not.
I strongly suspect that many of the new owners who report good positive results from changing: tires, springs, shocks, alignment, sway bars, etc. are not factoring in the TIME and MILES that have pass during the time all of that was done.
I think EXPERIENCE is the best thing you can add to increase the comfort level.
Here's a little test:
On a mostly straight road that is in good condition with light traffic......at a reasonable speed..........set the cruise control and take your hands OFF of the grips and grab the bars on both sides INSIDE the grips. That is, about 10 inches closer to the center on both sides. That will somewhat "desensitize" the reaction of the steering input. See if you can't negotiate simple steering actions much more comfortably like that.
IF......it feels much better like that, then the "problem" likely isn't with the hardware but with the rider and lack of experience.
I do NOT recommend that you ride that way all the time.
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Originally Posted by Waynebang i
I bought it in Florida and rode it home to Georgia 500 miles on my first outing. Long straight Florida roads were great north Georgia mountains it really works your hard. It just seems to me that it should handle a little better than it does so I wonder if something was wrong with it
If your trike is twitchy or tends to follow tar strips on the highway I would strongly recommend getting a laser alignment first chance you have. I almost sold my RTL over it's terrible handling until I got it aligned and it made all the difference in the world. Would highly recommend Squared Away if they are convenient to you. They attend most of the Spyder gatherings.
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Originally Posted by akspyderman
I went for the helpful/friendly version but Can't help wondering...
Is this an I would like some help thread,
or
Is this a lets complain about the brand thread?
I was strictly looking for help, I love riding my Spyder and only want to make it better.
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Waynebang i, I too grew up riding two wheelers from MotoX to Sportbikes, to Crotch Rockets, to cruisers, to the Spyder '13 RTL i have now. I thought sportbikes and crotchrockets cornered terribly compared to my original TM's and Yz's, until I rode enough miles on them to adjust to their cornering. Same when I had kids, got OOOOLder an switched to cruisers, and finally the Spyder. Though about 2000 miles after getting my Spyder, before most of my mods even, I was carving corners smoothly and fast. I've taken my spyder with wife on back through Wisconsin twisties along the river, corners marked 15 and never got below 45. Bruises on the back of my shoulders, monster grin on my face.
I too love my Spyder, even better now.
Safe Rides,
David and Sharon Goebel
Both Retired USAF Veterans
2018 Anniversary Edition RT Limited
Baja Ron ultimate swaybar. Vredestein tires, Baja Ron Front Shock Pre-load adjusters, Pedal Box, See my Spyder Garage
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Originally Posted by Waynebang i
I am new to the Can Am, 2013 RT SE5. It has 20000 miles. I have been riding 2 wheels for several years so it feels strange on the RT. I don’t know if they all handle this way or if I have a problem. When you enter a turn the nose will dip to the outside which tightens up the radius. You must then relax the turn and it will rebound causing you to have to turn in tighter again. You basically go around the turn in a bump steer. What are others experiences. I love riding it but when people say it handles great I must disagree.
If you check, you will find MANY threads on the forum from newbies on exactly this phenomenon. What you will hear, and learn, is that with experience turns will become much more natural and controlled. Coming from a 2-wheeler in particular, you will have to reprogram your brain to positive steer instead of counter-steering. Once you're used to it, it will become a non-issue and you will love the amount of control and comfort when taking curves.
2014 RTL Platinum
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Originally Posted by Waynebang i
I bought it in Florida and rode it home to Georgia 500 miles on my first outing. Long straight Florida roads were great north Georgia mountains it really works your hard. It just seems to me that it should handle a little better than it does so I wonder if something was wrong with it
As a used bike, it's possible there is something about it that needs fixing, such as alignment or tires. But, before you spend big bucks on those, do one of these;
- Join a local club and ask experienced ryders to check out your bike on the road in real conditions
- Go to a rally that has a respected alignment specialist (e.g. Squared-Away) and have your front end checked out
- Ask others on this forum what dealer in your reasonable area can be trusted to tell you the truth about your bike's condition.
2014 RTL Platinum
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Originally Posted by RinconRyder
I'm sorry but it is absolutely ludicrous to have to re-engineer a product with this supposed high level of engineering and cost. I would compare my Spyder to an AMF Harley.
Tire pressures are a given and part of normal maintenance.
My RTL is 18 months old and was way out of alignment when I took it to Squared Away today (over 1" on one side and over half an inch on the other). This trike was toed out so bad it would almost toss you off when grabbing a tar strip on the freeway. This is a trike with approximately 2,500 miles and no history of damage or repair. Unbelievable! I might add that the laser alignment did correct the problem and now it handles without the constant twitching and snatching.
The stock swaybar should be engineered at the design stage and not have to be replaced on otherwise new trikes. Also unbelievable.
I have been very disappointed with the supposed "engineering" of my '16 RTL. It is very unsatisfactory and borders on the dangerous. And I didn't even get into the other dozen or so common complaints such as piss poor OEM tires or lack of an effective drive belt guard.
Victory riders have similar complaints. There are things that most folks upgrade, or plan on upgrading, that causes everyone to ask, "Why didn't Victory build it this way to begin with?" Much depends on riding style and what one wants out of their ride.
2013 RT Limited.
BajaRon Sway Bar.
Refined Cycle's BPE2 brake pedal extension.
Pedal Box
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Maybe an idea for you.
Originally Posted by Waynebang i
I was strictly looking for help, I love riding my Spyder and only want to make it better.
Have you checked if your sway bar links are in good condition..... your description makes me think of the occasion when I broke one in a curve.... (original links are made of plastic)
It is a 2 minutes check, and could be the solution....
Richard
* 2012 RS SE5 (hers)
* 2013 ST SM5 (mine)
Daughter RSS SE5 2014
Son in law RSS SM5 2013
P.S. 3 Kumho AST 225/50R15 and 1 Toyo Proxies 4 225/50R15 rear tires
2 sets of Kumho 175/55R15 front tires
1 set of Hankook V4
1 set of Canadian Tire General tire Evertrek RTX in 14" for the 2012 ...
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Originally Posted by msherwood
When I bought my 2013 back in May I was easy into the turns but have found out that if crack the throttle into the turn the left tire hugs the painted lines perfectly but good judgement must be used on how much power to use
Completely agree. Rear squats down and digs in when you power out of corner.
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