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    Default Questions on my new 2017 RT limited and Hi

    Picked up a 2017 RT Limited last Friday and I have a few questions.

    I haven't found anywhere what is the recommended RPMs to shift.

    Also are there shop manuals for the RT Limited? I like having information on my bikes.

    My first post so a little about me, I have been riding since 1970.
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    Go to the General Discussion forum and click on the "Do's and Do Not's" for new Spyder owners. Lots of very helpful information. And, above all, enjoy your Spyder!
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    I have a 2012 rts sm5. So I think on yours you change around 5,000 rpm so the clutch will lock up.

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    Default Questions on my new 2017 RT limited and Hi

    Arion and Grayfox Thank You

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    and on your new spyder. I believe the '17s (SE-6) still have an eco mode which is activated or deactivated by your mode button (press and hold for 2 seconds to activate/deactivate). This mode will give you shift suggestions (I believe around 3k to 3.5k RPMS). When activated you will get an green arrow pointing upward in your digital display as a shift guide. Hope this helps. Dale
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    and on your new ryde.

    Manuals can be accessed by downloading them from BRP website.

    Shift recommendations. Your 2017 has a 1330 engine. My recommended shift points (sweet spot) are at 3500 - 4000 rpm's for starters. You can go lower or higher. Find the happy spot on "your" machine.

    The reference to 5000 applies to the 998 twin cylinder models.

    You will find 3500 at 65 mph in sixth gear as the "normal" rpm's. I usually operate my machine at lower speeds within that area (3500-4000) also. You will quickly catch on. The machine has plenty of low end torque and will usually get up an go when you need it.

    The reference to do's and don'ts is right on.
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    Default Agree...

    the V-Twins were the engines requiring high rpm's but in your case the triple is a lower rpm engine so 3,000 is good. Manuals you can get online but if you want a paper one brp is still the only source. You can print out the CD or download versions....
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    Default Congrats &

    best of luck. Nice choice.

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    Default Agree & Disagree

    My opinion is against the grain of many on this site. While the 1330 has plenty of torque to be shifted at 3000rpm, I personally don't think that offers the ultimate experience to be had from your bike. While shifting that low will certainly get you around, I don't think it's that much fun, and I think it's the reason the 1330 has a bit of a rep with many people for being somewhat of a lazy engine compared to the 998 v-twin.

    The red line for the 1330 is over 7500rpm's, so when you want to have fun with your new ride, try spending some time shifting in the 5-7000 range and you'll discover the fun that's in the triple and you won't hurt a thing!

    When I shift my 1330 like I did my 998, I think it's twice the engine my 998 ever was. I should make it clear that I have a manual and I do feel the manual shifts are smoother in the higher rpm's than the semi-auto. If your looking for smoothness and just getting around comfortably with your SE6 than I think that 3500-4000 range is certainly fine.
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    I shift my SE6 at about 4k rpm's. Runs like a dream. If you're feelin a bit more spunky, run it up to 5500 or so. Many people try to use the "Eco" mode and realize it's kind of a drag and lugs the motor a bit, and never use it again.
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    on ECO mode. Less performance, distracting (looking for the green arrow), will save about 1/2 to 1 mpg if used faithfully.

    Rant: I would rather have had the electronic trunk release that they took away when ECO mode came on. That felt good.

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    Default I THINK !!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grayfox View Post
    I have a 2012 rts sm5. So I think on yours you change around 5,000 rpm so the clutch will lock up.
    ..... NO - NO- NO ......... the 1330 engine can be shifted as low as 2200 RPM's ....SAFELY .... However most will use 2700 RPM's / + as their normal upshift ........ Also I have found letting the computer DOWNSHIFT works best .....( unless I'm hauling *ss in the twisties ) ...................Mike
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    Hi Rod,

    Did you buy at Cycle City? I just talked to them this week about a leftover RT.

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    I don't shift by RPM's as its like staring at the dash to much. Its like staring at that ECO mode telling you to shift

    shifting on my part is usually done by when I hit the "+" paddle and when I think it needs to be shifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post
    I don't shift by RPM's as its like staring at the dash to much. Its like staring at that ECO mode telling you to shift

    shifting on my part is usually done by when I hit the "+" paddle and when I think it needs to be shifted.
    Yup....once you get "the feel" and the sound of it, I bet you'll find yourself shifting around 4k rpm's. I'm not saying you need to watch the tach, but that just seems to be about the average rpm's I find I shift at.
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    Another card for shifting by ear and feel. Start with rpm's--then eventually graduate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatorglenn View Post
    Hi Rod,

    Did you buy at Cycle City? I just talked to them this week about a leftover RT.

    Glenn


    Glenn

    I purchased at Mountain Motorsports in Conyers, Georgia
    I have nothing but good things to say about them.
    If you send me a PM I can give you my phone number and give you additional details about your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayfox View Post
    I have a 2012 rts sm5. So I think on yours you change around 5,000 rpm so the clutch will lock up.
    That's a typo, right ??

    3000 is plenty; pretty sure the clutch fully locks around 2500.

    But anything up to about 80% of redline is OK.

    Shifting by sound and feel is great but.......depending on wind and road noise (and how loud the tunes are), I sometimes find myself cruising at 70 in 5th; sometimes even 4th !!
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    You can up shift at a low RPM, but if your RPM is too low it will not shift.
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    Default Shift RPMs

    Welcome to Spyder World. I have a 2016 RTL. I used the ECO mode first and than finally advanced to shift by 'Feel'. LITTLE BLUE
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    Flat land and cruising very conservatably I shift around 3K. Driving a little more aggressively or in hills, I shift more towards 4K
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    Used ECO mode once or twice. Doubt it will be used again.

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    My 2015 RTL scoots pretty fast. I like to take it easy on my Spyder on local street and find it purrs right around 3000. I shift there. But when I want to get on it, WHAM....I take it to 4500-5000. Wow does she move.

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