Too Bad That'll It'll Never Get Out Of The Senate...

[Bob Denman]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politi...rry/index.html


With better background checks: I see no reason why my license to Carry Concealed shouldn't be recognized across the Nation.
After all: my marriage and drivers licenses are both good everywhere, and look at all of the trouble that EHEY cause!

[vided]

10 fold

[Easy Rider]

But we can't AFFORD to do better checks......or to close the "loopholes" and make illegal sales "iron clad".....because the priority is on tax cuts for the wealthy individuals and corporations.

Do we really want to have the "gun" discussion here ??

The problem is multi-faceted. We screwed up big time about 30 years ago when most of the government funding for mental health care stopped.
THEN we allowed the "legitimate" gun lobby to create a mess where even the universally agreed upon restrictions almost can't be enforced.
Guns themselves are not THE problem. But the mass proliferation of guns certainly IS a significant part of the problem.

A good start would be to stop referring to gun laws as "control" and instead call it what it is: restrictions.

Being mostly on the outside of the heated part of the debate, I was shocked when leafing through a sporting magazine in a waiting room a few weeks ago and seeing several ads for "weapons of mass destruction", one of which was one that claimed to be able to fire something like 15 12ga rounds in 8 seconds. Every deer hunter in the US certainly needs one of those.

[Bob Denman]

I hope you realize that this Bill is attached to one that'll improve the background checks?
Coupled with THAT: I'm all for it!

[wyliec]

There's nothing wrong with Bob's post. There's only a problem when we, as members of SL's, make it that way.

[Bob Denman]

Thanks!
I'm referring to law-abiding citizens being allowed to carry across State lines...
What is a "Weapon of Mass Destruction" anyway?

The right to carry issue has been problematic for years. Full-time RVers are put in the position of not being allowed to protect themselves; because they are constantly crossing into different States.
Folks who travel cross-country to visit relatives are in the same situation.
We used to travel in Pennsylvania for outdoor 2700 matches. We were legal to bring our target pistols; but not our carry pieces.
Think about it: You see someone from another State carrying a box full of target pistols, and you know that they don't have along one for personal protection...
And someone else gets out of an in-State vehicle with the same box...

Who would YOU rob?

[slick999]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politi...rry/index.html


With better background checks: I see no reason why my license to Carry Concealed shouldn't be recognized across the Nation.
After all: my marriage and drivers licenses are both good everywhere, and look at all of the trouble that EHEY cause!

I agree,I think it has a chance.

[Bob Denman]

I certainly hope that you're right!
I would LOVE to be wrong!

[PrairieSpyder]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politi...rry/index.html


With better background checks: I see no reason why my license to Carry Concealed shouldn't be recognized across the Nation.
After all: my marriage and drivers licenses are both good everywhere, and look at all of the trouble that EHEY cause!

I wonder if that means NY, CA and other states that "technically" have CC, will have to honor my permit from Kansas. And what about the states that don't have CC but do allow open carry?

[Orange Spyder Man]

if you can REMEMBER ? ... THE 2ND ADMENDMENT................................... if politicians pick & choose the laws they prefer rather than enforcing the laws our country was built on... we might as well as be living in Russia, Iran or North Korea ...................nuff said

osm

[Machinegunner]

You still won't be able to carry on airlines, in schools, in government buildings. So where is the problem with law abiding citizens carrying across state lines. If there is no problem with them carrying in their state, why would it be a problem if they cross a state line??? They have to obey the laws of what ever state they happen to be in.

[Bob Denman]

I wonder if that means NY, CA and other states that "technically" have CC, will have to honor my permit from Kansas. And what about the states that don't have CC but do allow open carry?

That's how it supposed to work...
But wait until they get done with "amendments" to it!

[UtahPete]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/06/politi...rry/index.html With better background checks: I see no reason why my license to Carry Concealed shouldn't be recognized across the Nation. After all: my marriage and drivers licenses are both good everywhere, and look at all of the trouble that EHEY cause!

I agree. States' rights is bull**** anyway.

[vided]

would this mean a person with a nys full carry be able to travel to nyc?

[Bob Denman]

I don't think that it is going to remove those local restrictions: it'll just make the States all agree to accept each other's permits as valid in their own...
(Reciprocity...)

[UtahPete]

would this mean a person with a nys full carry be able to travel to nyc?

Sure. And, you'll be able to drive your ATV down Broadway too.

[Bob Denman]

Sure. And, you'll be able to drive your ATV down Broadway too.

If I can do that, while drinking a cold beer:

[UtahPete]

If I can do that, while drinking a cold beer:

I don't know any state that allows that. Yet. Shouldn't have any trouble getting that law passed in Wyoming though, then you'll be good to go; every state will have to recognize that (if you have a Wyoming driver's license)

[Bob Denman]

I was joking: I take my ATVing seriously!

[UtahPete]

I was joking: I take my ATVing seriously!

So was I. My droll sense of humor doesn't seem to translate to written form very well.

[Bob Denman]

they rarely do...

[UtahPete]

they rarely do...

Sorry about that.

[Bob Denman]

fuggitabowtit...

[Easy Rider]

I hope you realize that this Bill is attached to one that'll improve the background checks?
Coupled with THAT: I'm all for it!

Improving background checks is just plugging one small leak in the dam; there are other much larger ones.

Like a "private" party being able to sell guns to anybody, even in places like gun shows, without ANY checks at all.
Then there is the ability to order an entire gun one piece at a time with no restrictions.

[Easy Rider]

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What is a "Weapon of Mass Destruction" anyway?
Who would YOU rob?

If you had actually read my whole post, there was one good example.

And that "criminal taking time to think out who might be the least risky target" is largely devoid of any real substance.........BECAUSE the criminal almost always has the barrel in your face before you know it and whether or not you are "carrying" makes no difference. Once he has the drop on you, reaching for your piece is MORE likely to get you killed.

Most of the pro-gun arguments are based more on emotions than on facts.