Too Easy???

[Eviltwin]

I'm also going to do an oil change on my 2010, but I have a question about the HCM filter. From what I understand, there are two versions of the filter and housing. One is "extended" and longer and the other is the OEM. I think my bike still has the OEM version. Looking online at one posting back from 2015, BajaRon stated:

The 'Extended' is a bit misleading. People were running 5000 miles plus on their Spyders long before BRP upgraded their filters and called them 'Extended'.

As far as I know there have been zero filter related issues with the aftermarket products. I have personally run 6,400 miles (SM5) and I know others who have run farther than that with their SE5 on aftermarket filters. All of the problems occurred with the original BRP filters.

It was the BRP OEM engine and transmission filters which were failing at these longer distances. So the 'Extended' service interval is only in comparison to the original BRP filters. Not with the much better made aftermarket filters.

The current BRP filters are a much better product and I have heard of zero filter related issues. But the same can be said for the aftermarket filters as well, including the shorter transmission filter. Many retained the short cap and continue to run the short filter. They are not only much less expensive, but also much easier to find.

So should I try and get the larger filter cap and get the kit with the extended filter or stick with the kit with the original transmission filter? It doesn't sound like there is that much difference in performance or longevity, but I'm just figuring this stuff out. Also, what brand of MC oil are folks using (full synthetic). Thanks in advance.

Bob

PS. Any pics of the difference between the two filters would be appreciated.

[RinconRyder]

Three hours to perform a simple oil/filter change is asinine. BRP's engineering could have been galactically better.

[jcthorne]

Three hours to perform a simple oil/filter change is asinine. BRP's engineering could have been galactically better.

It does not take 3 hours.

Its a one hour job with full multipoint inspection.

[Fat Baxter]

+10 on removing/replacing thew body panels. I was working on mine last week. Got cut twice by sharp edges, and somehow smashed a finger bloody. That plastic gets slippery when your fingers are bleeding.

I used to complain about removing about 2 dozen screws to pull the Tupperware on my BMW RT, but once the screws were out, it was stupid simple to handle the Tupperware. I'm not at all comfortable with the Spyder's "just give it a good, solid tug" to remove and "just a little more pressure" to reinstall. I'm afraid I'm gonna split a panel one of these days.

My vote for a new Spyder is to keep the frame and drive train, and figure out something better for working with the Tupperware.

[timeless]

interesting. I also have a 2010 RT SE, my transmission filter is the larger one and this was done by the dealer as a "recall" item"!!!!!

I'm also going to do an oil change on my 2010, but I have a question about the HCM filter. From what I understand, there are two versions of the filter and housing. One is "extended" and longer and the other is the OEM. I think my bike still has the OEM version. Looking online at one posting back from 2015, BajaRon stated:

The 'Extended' is a bit misleading. People were running 5000 miles plus on their Spyders long before BRP upgraded their filters and called them 'Extended'.

As far as I know there have been zero filter related issues with the aftermarket products. I have personally run 6,400 miles (SM5) and I know others who have run farther than that with their SE5 on aftermarket filters. All of the problems occurred with the original BRP filters.

It was the BRP OEM engine and transmission filters which were failing at these longer distances. So the 'Extended' service interval is only in comparison to the original BRP filters. Not with the much better made aftermarket filters.

The current BRP filters are a much better product and I have heard of zero filter related issues. But the same can be said for the aftermarket filters as well, including the shorter transmission filter. Many retained the short cap and continue to run the short filter. They are not only much less expensive, but also much easier to find.

So should I try and get the larger filter cap and get the kit with the extended filter or stick with the kit with the original transmission filter? It doesn't sound like there is that much difference in performance or longevity, but I'm just figuring this stuff out. Also, what brand of MC oil are folks using (full synthetic). Thanks in advance.

Bob

PS. Any pics of the difference between the two filters would be appreciated.

[Highwayman2013]

I'm also going to do an oil change on my 2010, but I have a question about the HCM filter. From what I understand, there are two versions of the filter and housing. One is "extended" and longer and the other is the OEM. I think my bike still has the OEM version. Looking online at one posting back from 2015, BajaRon stated:

The 'Extended' is a bit misleading. People were running 5000 miles plus on their Spyders long before BRP upgraded their filters and called them 'Extended'.

As far as I know there have been zero filter related issues with the aftermarket products. I have personally run 6,400 miles (SM5) and I know others who have run farther than that with their SE5 on aftermarket filters. All of the problems occurred with the original BRP filters.

It was the BRP OEM engine and transmission filters which were failing at these longer distances. So the 'Extended' service interval is only in comparison to the original BRP filters. Not with the much better made aftermarket filters.

The current BRP filters are a much better product and I have heard of zero filter related issues. But the same can be said for the aftermarket filters as well, including the shorter transmission filter. Many retained the short cap and continue to run the short filter. They are not only much less expensive, but also much easier to find.

So should I try and get the larger filter cap and get the kit with the extended filter or stick with the kit with the original transmission filter? It doesn't sound like there is that much difference in performance or longevity, but I'm just figuring this stuff out. Also, what brand of MC oil are folks using (full synthetic). Thanks in advance.

Bob

PS. Any pics of the difference between the two filters would be appreciated.

The longer filter came in the oil change kits for a couple years. There should be a sticker on the oil tank to show if it has the longer filter.