Spyder Down - bolt/axle swing arm mount moved in frame!! Need BRP contact?

[Freddy]

It looks like dealer was NOT communicating with BRP. This has happened many times in the past.

Give BRP a chance and then let us know what happens.

More likely BRP's left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing - as seen in the remarkably distressing F3 drive pulley debacle.

[ingramsail]

Yes the dealer has tried warranty 3 times and it was turned down 3 times. They say I needed to take it back to the dealership for service and belt adjustments.
Sense I did my own it's my Problem!
Will its looks like I have a winter projects , no riding this winter.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Yes the dealer has tried warranty 3 times and it was turned down 3 times. They say I needed to take it back to the dealership for service and belt adjustments.
Sense I did my own it's my Problem!
Will its looks like I have a winter projects , no riding this winter.

Don't give up hope. I personally talked with some of the BRP Care folks at Homecoming and will say I believe they truly care that we owners get treated fairly. As Freddy says it's most likely a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, or knows. In case you haven't looked at it take a scan through this thread about the F3 pulley debacle he mentions. http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ket-Inspection. In that case one, or was it two, BRP persons were flat out wrong about which way the front sprocket should be installed.

As I said earlier, I think BRP owes you a new frame.

[AbNormy]

Hope they get you back up and running soon Darryl...

[ingramsail]

Just a update , want thank Rocky at Coyote Powersports Boerne TX for his efforts with BRP. I would not wait to take your spyder to the dealer if the belt is staying to far off the inside edge. This one of the main reasons they turn me down on my warranty because I was resetting it my shelf. If they had a way to track the dealer resetting the belt, I'm guessing it would most like be covered.
Will life goes on, the spyder is home and now I will start the rebuild. The photos are of the damaged parts the right side has 1mm + wear and the left has 2mm+wear. I have ordered a new axle when it come in I will drilling the mount and install sleeve.

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[Freddy]

Why not allow BRP to pick up the pieces since they offered to help?

[ingramsail]

BRP did not offer to fix it ,its on my $$$$. The only words they had were we are sorry and no.

[Freddy]

Reply 23 gave some hope of assistance I thought. But it's your trike to do with as you please.

[Retired 2012]

Did you do as BRP cafes asked? In #23???
they have helped others out, just give them all the info and photos they need to help you!!!
if they can’t help then you can do it yourself.
At least you have the experience do it yourself, I wouldn’t have the knowledge or the tools to do it.
either way, I wish you well
take care
DJ

[ingramsail]

Yes I have spoken 3 times on the phone and sent the email that BRP Care asked for.

[2dogs]

With all the negative PR that this poor fellow has generated for BRP. they could have at least sent him the parts to repair his trike. If he's convinced only two potential customers to avoid purchasing spyders, the loss to BRP would far exceed their cost of replacement parts for his spyder. I've hade a similar experience with BRP and when interested people ask me about my spyder, I tell them how much I like it and how much I dislike BRP and exactly why. It seems like every other day someone is asking me how I like my spyder, and sometimes even twice a day.

[ingramsail]

Just finished reinstalling the swing arm on my 2014 Rts Se6. After checking the bushing in the frame, 90% of it was at 25mm same as the axle for the swing arm. Did find movement where the swing arm bearing meet the frame,1.58mm play. Installed shim between arm and frame. I know can set the belt and it will not move from one side to the other when I start and stop. I will start next week putting all the body parts back on and again with no help from BRP.
If anyone else has a problem with the belt walking back and forth, take to your dealer and get it fixed. I didn't think it was a big thing, until I tried with 40000+ miles on it. They will tell you its your problem because you over tighten the belt. I have owned 3 Spyders and have never even lost a rear wheel bearing, part of fun for me was doing my own maintenance. Doing a major repair is not fun, I will still ride and enjoy the spyder but will not have anything good to say about BRP Warranty and the way they do not stand behind there spyder.

[ingramsail]

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[Freddy]

Just finished reinstalling the swing arm on my 2014 Rts Se6.<snip>I will still ride and enjoy the spyder but will not have anything good to say about BRP Warranty and the way they do not stand behind there spyder.

Same old sad story. Glad you have succeeded in doing what BRP refused to do for a repeat customer. Is there another message here for others, I wonder?

[Roadster Renovations]

Just curious what you have been setting your tension at?
And I agree with Joel that it sounds like the bearing froze and caused friction at the wear points on the frame. Tension wouldn't cause that. And, it seems that the rear bearings would have went first due to overtightening.

[ingramsail]

One of the swing arm had a rough spot, the bearing was not bad just an over tighten bearing mount. The bearing was binding in the mount, when ahead and repaired it also.

[ingramsail]

Well after 2 months the rt is back together. Did a 700 mile round trip to South Padre and the belt and every thing electrical was working great.
Want thank Rocky at Coyote Powersports of Boerne Tx. for all his help and for taking the spyder part and finding root of the problem. If you need a dealer check then out, they are a caring dearer.
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[kngfsh27]

Well after 2 months the rt is back together. Did a 700 mile round trip to South Padre and the belt and every thing electrical was working great.
Want thank Rocky at Coyote Powersports of Boerne Tx. for all his help and for taking the spyder part and finding root of the problem. If you need a dealer check then out, they are a caring dearer.
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Glad you got it back together and are back riding. It sucks being down during good riding weather.

[pegasus1300]

Well after 2 months the rt is back together. Did a 700 mile round trip to South Padre and the belt and every thing electrical was working great.
Want thank Rocky at Coyote Powersports of Boerne Tx. for all his help and for taking the spyder part and finding root of the problem. If you need a dealer check then out, they are a caring dearer.
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do you know now what the final problem was?

[ingramsail]

Yes, the axle mounted to the frame was letting the swing arm moving left and right. Add slims to swing arm where the bearings meet the frame.