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    Default Do NOT use on motorcycles ! - ---

    ---- Why ??
    Haven't washed the Spyder since June so I thought I'd treat her.

    True to "Mother's" word the wheels and tires sparkled like they were new, after having looked like we'd been 3 wheeling in a swamp.

    So, what's the deal with the warning label on the back of the product - "don't use on motorcycles" ??

    Is this tire and wheel cleaner that much different than the Merlin's Blood that's been profiled on this forum ?

    Anyone ?DSCF8252.jpgDSCF8253.jpg

    Don't tell me the tires are going to implode and the Fobo is fubar'd
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    Default Depends on what it does to tires

    Some cleaners (perhaps this one) that say "tire" might leave a slick film on rubber tires. In the two wheeler world we avoid wheel and tire cleaners like the plague. Especially ones that leave the tire all shiny and slick - tends to reduce traction like ice.

    But, a Spyder is a trike - so it won't fall over and you can use any cleaner to your heart's content. The manufacturer was just doing a CYA move I think.
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    Some cleaners are caustic and will damaged certain wheels

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    Default Agree...

    It is because of the traction. Motorcylce tires are rather narrow on the road contact surface and are rounded at the sides for leaning and cornering...if that surface gets slick the rider will likely lose traction on a curve and even go down. Many companies, even if they don't make it slick, have this warning.....

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    It might give you ringworms...
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    From what i read it is not a ph nuetral cleaner so you want to use it on painted/powder coated wheels not chrome
    or perhaps not even on machined finished wheels. i would avoid it. i use min40 on all my wheels without a problem.

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    Does not make any difference on your Spyder (because it is NOT a motorcycle...)

    But on 2 wheels, when you lean over onto the slick, treated area of the tire, down you go. So, not a good idea to use on a motorcycle. Hence the warning.
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    Even Lamont cautions using his "Black renew" product should not be applied to the tread!
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    Hey Rog.......wash that pig 🐷 once in a while!
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    Doesn't that label say avoid use on polished aluminum, billet or anodized wheels? That pretty much covers most motorcycle wheels so it's a chemical thing.
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    Its a wheel and tire cleaner. How would that make the tire slick?

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    Too many bad experiences using these chemicals on car/motorcycles over the years. I no longer use any chemicals for that reason. The worst of my experiences was using a bug remover on a new car I just purchased and it turned my front black plastic grill white. I painted my grill black and never looked back. The beauty of my F3s Special is that the owners manual states to NEVER use anything other then soapy water and it works like a charm. I cant even use a soap/wax combination.

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    Probably 15 years ago a PA motor cop went down while in a parade due to him applying Armor-All to his tires as part of his detailing for the parade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayRog View Post
    ---- Why ?? True to "Mother's" word the wheels and tires sparkled like they were new, after having looked like we'd been 3 wheeling in a swamp. So, what's the deal with the warning label on the back of the product - "don't use on motorcycles" ?? Is this tire and wheel cleaner that much different than the Merlin's Blood that's been profiled on this forum ? Anyone ? Don't tell me the tires are going to implode and the Fobo is fubar'd
    I've been using this product on my Spyder without problems. I guess I never saw the warning. I have no idea why they say that, unless maybe it leaves a slippery finish on the sidewalls which would be hazardous for a 2-wheeler.
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    I think I like Bob's reply

    I do know about cleaners/tires/2 wheels and the possible dangers. Never did use a spray cleaner on any of my 2 wheels except for bodywork.
    This spray cleaned the sidewalls without leaving a slick or shiny finish.
    The label states that it's safe on :-
    painted - clear coated - color coated - steel - modular - chrome - or factory coated wheels and hub caps.

    I think I'm good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate looks at -- View Post
    Hey Rog.......wash that pig 🐷 once in a while!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navydad View Post
    Doesn't that label say avoid use on polished aluminum, billet or anodized wheels? That pretty much covers most motorcycle wheels so it's a chemical thing.
    Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN View Post
    From what i read it is not a ph nuetral cleaner so you want to use it on painted/powder coated wheels not chrome
    or perhaps not even on machined finished wheels. i would avoid it. i use min40 on all my wheels without a problem.
    min40 ?

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    [QUOTE=HayRog;1313422]
    The label states that it's safe on :-
    painted - clear coated - color coated - steel - modular - chrome - or factory coated wheels and hub caps.


    Key words are painted and coated. Lots of motorcycle wheels are neither painted nor coated although painting is becoming more popular for motorcycle wheels these days. Some wheel cleaners will damage wheels that are not painted or clear coated. They will pit or darken bare aluminum or damage anodized aluminum. I keep two bottles of wheel cleaner on the shelf. One for the Spyder which has painted wheels and another for my motorcycles which are not painted, but anodized. The stuff I use on my Spyder will damage unprotected aluminum. I spent a week wet sanding and polishing the wheels on one of my vintage Hondas because of the wrong wheel cleaner. Know your wheels and read the labels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
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    I hate cleaning my wheels and didn't for almost 3 years, than an idea popped into my head when my friend who was clay balling my car at his detail shop said, he was going to have a Bikini Bike Wash during the thunder beach motorcycle rally, I decided to let the girls clean them. So now will have them done during the Spring and Fall rally's from now on. For the rest of the Spyder, I use that F11 wax on it and do that every 3 to 4 months. I spray it on every thing, seats, windshield and all the body panels, but never the wheels and tires, being afraid of getting it on the brake discs.
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