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Tire Balance
When I first got my Can Am Spyder it had 10,000 miles on it. A 2015 RT Roadster. The rear tire had been replaced which I plan to switch to a car tire but it has some tread left. I did notice the front tires needed balance. I purchased the beads and put in both front tires but did not notice much difference. Today I removed the tires from the wheels and found inside the tires seemed sticky not where anyone had put anything in them. The rubber was tacky and the beads just stuck in in the tires and where not doing anything. I replace the valve stems with new steel ones so I can use my Doran tire pressure monitoring system. I remounted them and took the tires to a tire automotive shop and they balance them. Did it ever make a difference. I did not realize they were out of balance that much. I just hope when I change my rear tire I can get it balance. I am not sure their machine will balance the rear. Does anyone know the exact diameter of the rear axle shaft? I need this to make a shaft for my tire changer to go through the rear wheel. Next spring I will replace all the tires with cars tires and put the belt tension er on. Is the belt tension er worth the money? I don't notice much vibration but it may be like the front tires maybe I get a little and don't notice it that much. Thanks for any replies.
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I had a Yokohama tire put on the rear by a tire dealer but had to take it to a motorcycle shop to get it spin balanced.
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Originally Posted by BoilerAnimal
I had a Yokohama tire put on the rear by a tire dealer but had to take it to a motorcycle shop to get it spin balanced.
Thanks, that is what I was afraid of. I don't know what the hole size is in the rear wheel is.
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I don't know the size other than to say it's too small for car tire balancers.
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It's gonna be the same size as the OD of the axle tube, so pop the LH dust cover & measure, it shouldn't be too hard to get a useful measurement.
Those tire mobs who only ever do fitting & balancing for just the 'common' cars out there probably won't have the right sized spindle, but most 'specialist tire' or places that handle fitting & balancing race tires for anyone (or places that run their own race cars, esp open wheelers, what we'd call Formula Vee or Formula Ford) will be far more likely to have the correct spindle & probably better balancing & tire tru'ing gear too!
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Originally Posted by gerald37
I just hope when I change my rear tire I can get it balance.
Twice now I've had the local tire shop change out the rear tire for my RT. I took the tire off the bike myself. Since their balancer couldn't handle the tire they put in commercial quality liquid tire balance which they use on truck and pickup tires. It has worked good for me. I've never felt any imbalance at all. I was skeptical about liquid balancing but since they use the stuff I figured it must work. It does.
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I used my HF motorcycle tire changer and balancer to do my rear tire a couple years ago. With a couple modifications to the changer it worked great.
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Originally Posted by Bensonoid
I used my HF motorcycle tire changer and balancer to do my rear tire a couple years ago. With a couple modifications to the changer it worked great.
I have one of Marc tire balance with the cones with bearings use on car jacks stands.Will it work?
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Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder
Twice now I've had the local tire shop change out the rear tire for my RT. I took the tire off the bike myself. Since their balancer couldn't handle the tire they put in commercial quality liquid tire balance which they use on truck and pickup tires. It has worked good for me. I've never felt any imbalance at all. I was skeptical about liquid balancing but since they use the stuff I figured it must work. It does.
I used Ride On in my tires and found that it solidified and caused the front tires to be unbalanced. It took me quite a while to figure out the cause since others had good experiences with it and recommended it.
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I bet it will. The HF balancer has the same cone setup.
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Originally Posted by bobnaquin
I used Ride On in my tires and found that it solidified and caused the front tires to be unbalanced. It took me quite a while to figure out the cause since others had good experiences with it and recommended it.
I wonder how ride on can be affected by the quantity and quality of the various bead lubricants that some of the less desirable tire techs use. I've seen them use dish soap, car wash etc. to lube the beads before mounting. I've seen them use way too much of the wrong stuff also. I can't imagine a half pint of Dawn dish soap and ride on, or balance beads are going to perform very well.
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Originally Posted by Bensonoid
I wonder how ride on can be affected by the quantity and quality of the various bead lubricants that some of the less desirable tire techs use. I've seen them use dish soap, car wash etc. to lube the beads before mounting. I've seen them use way too much of the wrong stuff also. I can't imagine a half pint of Dawn dish soap and ride on, or balance beads are going to perform very well.
I am like you.I did use the beads in my Goldwing and I thought they helped. In them tires they didn't stick together like these tires. But I wander if they do anything.
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I have used them in truck and passenger car tires but didn't care for them. Now that all my vehicles have alloy wheels I use stick on weights.
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You could just use the rear axle, 2 jack stands and some stick on weights. You could also get the Centramatic balancers from Lamonster.
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Originally Posted by Bensonoid
I have used them in truck and passenger car tires but didn't care for them. Now that all my vehicles have alloy wheels I use stick on weights.
I am going to try my Marc Balance er it worked great on BMW & Goldwing tires. I just did not know if this type of balance er worked. It is like the Harbor Freight balance er. On my Goldwing F6B I had the Centramatic disc balance er on front & rear and I think they were doing the job. I will have my front balance at a tire shop. I wander if you can just purchase the rear Centramatic for the Spyder? I see they sell them as a set.
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REAR TIRE BALANCING
Originally Posted by gerald37
When I first got my Can Am Spyder it had 10,000 miles on it. A 2015 RT Roadster. The rear tire had been replaced which I plan to switch to a car tire but it has some tread left. I did notice the front tires needed balance. I purchased the beads and put in both front tires but did not notice much difference. Today I removed the tires from the wheels and found inside the tires seemed sticky not where anyone had put anything in them. The rubber was tacky and the beads just stuck in in the tires and where not doing anything. I replace the valve stems with new steel ones so I can use my Doran tire pressure monitoring system. I remounted them and took the tires to a tire automotive shop and they balance them. Did it ever make a difference. I did not realize they were out of balance that much. I just hope when I change my rear tire I can get it balance. I am not sure their machine will balance the rear. Does anyone know the exact diameter of the rear axle shaft? I need this to make a shaft for my tire changer to go through the rear wheel. Next spring I will replace all the tires with cars tires and put the belt tension er on. Is the belt tension er worth the money? I don't notice much vibration but it may be like the front tires maybe I get a little and don't notice it that much. Thanks for any replies.
I Didn't balance my last three Rear Tires ( car tires ) ..... I haven't noticed any difference in feel or wear on the rear tires ...... Mike
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Originally Posted by gerald37
I wander if you can just purchase the rear Centramatic for the Spyder? I see they sell them as a set.
3 WAYS TO BUY THEM. as a front set of 2, just rear, or set of 3
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Originally Posted by Woodaddict
3 WAYS TO BUY THEM. as a front set of 2, just rear, or set of 3
Thanks I might just purchase one for the rear. I don't know how good they work. I used them on my Goldwing F6B and it seem real smooth. I found out the beads did no work in the front tires. Do you feel the Centramatic work well?
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The balancers may work for some but not all. And you will need to have the tires balanced first before using them.
Beads did not work on the fronts for me . I also Have the beads on the rear and have no balancing issues that I can tell.
I would take the fronts to a place that has a road force balancer and the correct cone. The rear you can get away with the beads or roll the dice and not use any on the rear.
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Originally Posted by trikermutha
The balancers may work for some but not all. And you will need to have the tires balanced first before using them.
Beads did not work on the fronts for me . I also Have the beads on the rear and have no balancing issues that I can tell.
I would take the fronts to a place that has a road force balancer and the correct cone. The rear you can get away with the beads or roll the dice and not use any on the rear.
I did take the fronts tires and had them balance and they are as smooth as glass. I don't notice the back tire at all. I have the Marc balance er with the cones like a Harbor Freight balancer. I will try using it on the rear when I put a car tire on it.
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Originally Posted by gerald37
I did take the fronts tires and had them balance and they are as smooth as glass. I don't notice the back tire at all. I have the Marc balance er with the cones like a Harbor Freight balancer. I will try using it on the rear when I put a car tire on it.
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