What is an entry level Spyder?

[Rob Rodriguez]

There was some talk on one of the 2018 threads about entry level Spyders. This topic has been brushed upon a bit here and there over the years in other threads. It would be interesting to know what people think and entry level Spyder would be.

Maybe some stats like:

Engine, size, HP, etc?
Transmission, manual, automatic, 5 speed, etc?
Features, speedo only, no gauges at all, etc?
Chassis, use existing, use old model, completely new, no tupperware, etc?
Price Range?
Should BRP spend time developing an entry level model?

This could be fun

[UtahPete]

A naked bike with the 998, SM-5 transmission for $9k

[SteveLaoyster]

Check craigslist in your area. Search for spyder & you'll find a few of them.

[UtahPete]

Check craigslist in your area. Search for spyder & you'll find a few of them.

You mean previously owned Spyders I guess. Not exactly what the OP was asking (or what BRP wants to know).

[SteveLaoyster]

You mean previously owned Spyders I guess. Not exactly what the OP was asking (or what BRP wants to know).

Well if the op meant new then they might as well consider the 1330 then. I'm thinking probably not many new 998's sitting at the dealers anymore.


Just looked at Imotorsports and they have one 2016 RS-S SE5 listed as new.

[Rob Rodriguez]

Well if the op meant new then they might as well consider the 1330 then. I'm thinking probably not many new 998's sitting at the dealers anymore.

Could be the 998, the 1330, 500, 2300, 6 cyclinder, turbo, 80cc 2 -stroke......could be anything. There is no right or wrong answer here. If BRP sat down with you at a table and said we want to build an entry level Spyder and we want you to tell us what an entry level Spyder means to you.......what would you tell them.

[UtahPete]

Well if the op meant new then they might as well consider the 1330 then. I'm thinking probably not many new 998's sitting at the dealers anymore. Just looked at Imotorsports and they have one 2016 RS-S SE5 listed as new.

I think you missed the whole point of the OP. He was asking what a new, entry-level Spyder would look like and at what price point, should BRP decide to make it.

[loisk]

There is no entry level spyder as part of the line - just the base model of each style.

Yes I wish there was a 650cc plain Jane entry level - in Australia this is the highest capacity allowable for new riders, and would really increase brp market share here. It is my guess that Asian sales (where lower cc is preferred) would make this an economic proposition for brp.

I could have sold dozens...

The biggest selling Harley here is their 500cc ...

[Bob Denman]

This topic can get pretty involved...
An entry level Spyder could be defined as one having less power, weight, and frills; than the standard models carry.
This might mean a bike with a shorter wheelbase, narrower track, less bodywork, a smaller engine, and a simpler drivetrain.
Could they build something like this?
You betcha!
They've already got the 600 ACE parallel twin in their snowmobile line-up. It's got 60 horsepower, and is hooked to a CVT transmission that includes reverse...
THAT sure sounds like a potential drivetrain to me!
They'd need to figure out a way to get the CVT's output routed to the rear wheel.
Again: this is already being done in their ATB and UTV line-ups!
(They use a shaft final drive!)
You could make the bike a bit narrower by simply using some shorter A-Arms, and/or mounting them right to the center of the framework.
the bike might not be shorter: you'll need room to package the fuel tank, the rear shock, the brake fluid reservoirs, and the electronics.
Make it either a single-seater, or one with the slightest hint of a pillion pad. Not carrying a passenger or a lot of cargo will make it simpler to calibrate the suspension.
The Frunk up front could be just a glorified glovebox: enough for paperwork and a bag lunch!
(Smaller than the F-3's little storage can.)
No radio, CB, cruise control, moveable windshield, I-Pod hookups, 12 volt power ports... No NUTHIN'!
And you could easily market it for under 10 grand!

But this is all just my opinion...

[stevencovert]

A naked bike with the 998, SM-5 transmission for $9k

I'd buy one for the wifey for $9K