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    Default F3 turn signals

    question pertains only to the Base and S.

    Has anyone changed rear bulbs and front to LED?
    If so, did you need to change the flasher?

    Please don't tell me there's a kit to purchase, I know that.
    And I don't think the kit replaces the stock rear bulbs.
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    I replaced my tails and turns with LEDs off the shelf and they worked with no changes to my F3s
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    @morturf
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    just what I wanted to hear!
    off to Autozone to grab some bulbs (or maybe online at Superbright LEDs)



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    Quote Originally Posted by ofdave View Post
    question pertains only to the Base and S.

    Has anyone changed rear bulbs and front to LED?
    If so, did you need to change the flasher?

    Please don't tell me there's a kit to purchase, I know that.
    And I don't think the kit replaces the stock rear bulbs.
    I replaced my rear bulbs with Lamonster LED's but can't get ride of the Hyper flash. I tried resetting per Lamonster directions - hold down the emergency flasher button for 30 seconds, then turn emergency flashers off, then allow the turn signal to signal once, then turn off the bike. Then do the other Right or left you did not do the first time. I tried this process many times but still have hyper flash. Don't know if not having front LED's in the blinkers is the issue. Any one know or know what I'm doing wrong???

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    This works no need to use resistors.

    Should your blinkers go into Hyper-flash, you can try the following procedure to fix this.
    1. Turn the bike on.
    2. Hold down the hazard light switch on for 30-45 seconds.
    3. Turn the hazards off and put the right signal on and turn the bike off right after the first blink on the blinker.
    4. Repeat the same process for the left side.

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    Would this apply to the F3 T also?... also what is the bulb type # and how many bulbs per side(can the LED conversion apply also to the front turn signals?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    This works no need to use resistors.

    Should your blinkers go into Hyper-flash, you can try the following procedure to fix this.
    1. Turn the bike on.
    2. Hold down the hazard light switch on for 30-45 seconds.
    3. Turn the hazards off and put the right signal on and turn the bike off right after the first blink on the blinker.
    4. Repeat the same process for the left side.

    Bruce I have tried this process many times on my F3 and I still have hyper flash. I don't know if it is because the front blinkers are still stock and only the rear blinkers swapped out with LED's??

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    Quote Originally Posted by cummingj View Post
    Bruce I have tried this process many times on my F3 and I still have hyper flash. I don't know if it is because the front blinkers are still stock and only the rear blinkers swapped out with LED's??

    Thanks, Jeff

    Jeff, It doesn't make any difference whether the front are still stock, but you must be very quick turning off the key (after the first blink) I have done several now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cummingj View Post
    Bruce I have tried this process many times on my F3 and I still have hyper flash. I don't know if it is because the front blinkers are still stock and only the rear blinkers swapped out with LED's??

    Thanks, Jeff
    This has worked for me:

    Engine running, hold down the hazard button for 30 seconds, then activate both side turn signals, one then the other, while holding down the hazard button and then turn off the ignition. You may need to do this more than once but it's always worked for me. I originally had only changed out the tail light bulbs but now have LED's all the way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morturf View Post
    I replaced my tails and turns with LEDs off the shelf and they worked with no changes to my F3s
    What is the "off the shelf" mnfg & part number??
    thanks for your help,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    This works no need to use resistors.

    Should your blinkers go into Hyper-flash, you can try the following procedure to fix this.
    1. Turn the bike on.
    2. Hold down the hazard light switch on for 30-45 seconds.
    3. Turn the hazards off and put the right signal on and turn the bike off right after the first blink on the blinker.
    4. Repeat the same process for the left side.

    This only partially works on the F3S. Since the bike shares the same lamps for stop and turn functions, there is no provision in the software to calibrate both instances. So do the procedure above without your foot on the brake and it sort of works. Until you hit your brakes......

    On the F3S, if you are replacing the stock lamps, the resistors or lamps with the resistors built in are going to be needed to get rid of the hyperflash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrice View Post
    What is the "off the shelf" mnfg & part number??
    thanks for your help,
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    Spyderpops has rear LED kits for the F3 and F3T each with strobe modules already wired in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrice View Post
    What is the "off the shelf" mnfg & part number??
    thanks for your help,
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    This is the one I got I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morturf View Post
    This is the one I got I believe.

    CHECK THE FITPart Number: 1157RSYLLED

    That's from AutoZone, correct?

    Can someone tell me if the Spyderpops or Lamonster tail light kits come with bulbs that replace the stock bulbs, or is it just add-on LEDs and keeping the stock bulbs?

    Has anyone installed LED front signal bulbs with the rear kit?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce B View Post
    Jeff, It doesn't make any difference whether the front are still stock, but you must be very quick turning off the key (after the first blink) I have done several now.
    Bruce,

    I've tried the process many times, but still not working. Let me ask this question, does the bike ignition need to be in the on position (which is what I've been doing and Lamonster did in there video) or does the bike actually need to be running, as someone noted below.

    Thanks,

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    Sorry...this is what I thought I was getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cummingj View Post
    Bruce,

    I've tried the process many times, but still not working. Let me ask this question, does the bike ignition need to be in the on position (which is what I've been doing and Lamonster did in there video) or does the bike actually need to be running, as someone noted below.

    Thanks,

    Jeff
    Jeff
    Yes you have to turn the key on but you do not have to start the motor.
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    How many 1157R bulbs are required per side😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruisr View Post
    How many 1157R bulbs are required per side��
    One per side. These bulbs are what I use and work very well.

    https://www.amazon.com/Philips-12836...7+led+bulb+red
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruisr View Post
    How many 1157R bulbs are required per side😎

    one per side, each under its own lens

    I found these from Superbright LEDs. Have used their stuff before and it is top quality but a bit pricey.
    They may not cause the hyper flash problem.
    May give them a try along with amber led for the front
    https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...ofit-car/1166/



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    Quote Originally Posted by ofdave View Post
    That's from AutoZone, correct?

    Can someone tell me if the Spyderpops or Lamonster tail light kits come with bulbs that replace the stock bulbs, or is it just add-on LEDs and keeping the stock bulbs?

    Has anyone installed LED front signal bulbs with the rear kit?
    Funny you should ask! I just got the ones from Lamonster for my F3-S yesterday. And I'm actually disappointed in them! The tail lights are brighter but the brake lights aren't! AND, after spending 45mins f**king around with the hyper flash reset procedure, only one side will reprogram! Even weirder, when I swap the new LED bulbs left to right, the hyper flash changes sides! So I get to choose whether I want the left or right side to hyper flash!

    Hate to say it but these are going back. Not gonna add resistors. That is completely stupid when there are "CANBUS smart" LED replacements out there....

    UPDATE: Let me start by saying sometimes it isn't fun having something "special"! After taking a break and getting a bite to eat and having a "think" about this. I was able to resolve my situation by modifying the procedure a bit. I had noticed that the hyper flash side would function normally when applying the brake. So, after applying the hazard press for 40sec, I would apply the brake, THEN, do the procedure for the turn signal WHILE STILL APPLYING THE BRAKE! Both sides are now functioning normally, with and without the brake applied!

    Hope this helps some folks that are still having probs.... YRMV.

    That said, I would still not recommend these bulbs nor do I think I will be keeping them. Aside from the shenanigans it takes to make them work, they are noticeably less bright when on the brake circuit compared to the OE incandescent bulbs.

    Especially after remembering all the good stuff I have gotten in the past from SuperBrightLEDs who sells CANBUS "smart" LEDs that work even in notoriously PITA vehicles like BMW and MBZ!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hypurone View Post
    Funny you should ask! I just got the ones from Lamonster for my F3-S yesterday. And I'm actually disappointed in them! The tail lights are brighter but the brake lights aren't! AND, after spending 45mins f**king around with the hyper flash reset procedure, only one side will reprogram! Even weirder, when I swap the new LED bulbs left to right, the hyper flash changes sides! So I get to choose whether I want the left or right side to hyper flash!

    Hate to say it but these are going back. Not gonna add resistors. That is completely stupid when there are "CANBUS smart" LED replacements out there....
    Won't make any difference on the F3S. If you use LED rear bulbs, it will either hyper flash when you use the turn signals or it will hyperflash when you use the brakes and turn signals together. There is no programming procedure to eliminate both cases. The F3S is the only bike that shares the same lamp for stop and turn and the instrument cluster does not handle reprogramming for the dual case.

    I chose to program the lights to work correctly with the turn signal only. When I hit the brakes with a turn signal on, it flashes fast. Just the way it is. If you don't like this, go back to a filament lamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcthorne View Post
    Won't make any difference on the F3S. If you use LED rear bulbs, it will either hyper flash when you use the turn signals or it will hyperflash when you use the brakes and turn signals together. There is no programming procedure to eliminate both cases. The F3S is the only bike that shares the same lamp for stop and turn and the instrument cluster does not handle reprogramming for the dual case.

    I chose to program the lights to work correctly with the turn signal only. When I hit the brakes with a turn signal on, it flashes fast. Just the way it is. If you don't like this, go back to a filament lamp.
    Hmmmm, odd. But like I said above, sometimes it's a PITA having a "special" vehicle, sometimes it pans out. Mine functions properly in both instances. Turn signal only or with turn and brake.... Now, if I decide to keep these things (being an electrical item that has been installed, it is most likely not returnable) I'll have to see if like others, this reverts to malfunctioning and at that point make the jump to something else...

    UPDATE: Well folks it didn't take long. Ran downtown and around the valley for a bit and BAM! Halfway thru the 20 mile run everything has reverted to FUBAR! As JCThorne has said and others have reported reverting, if you have an F3-S and don't want to mess around with resistors, these LED's just plain won't work reliably! They are coming out tomorrow and back on incandescent for me! 8-( too bad I'm out 25.00 but hey when the site says for F3/F3-S you would think.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ofdave View Post
    question pertains only to the Base and S.

    Has anyone changed rear bulbs and front to LED?
    If so, did you need to change the flasher?

    Please don't tell me there's a kit to purchase, I know that.
    And I don't think the kit replaces the stock rear bulbs.
    You don't really need to change the rear bulbs to leds- On my 2015 F3 Base Model I just added a LED 10 inch strip on each side of the back and taped into the stock wires SO they operate as Brake and Turn Signal? Now I have the Stock bulbs PLUS Leds for about $50.
    I'm going to do the same on the Front turn signal- Take off cover -Positap a Led strip to the front signal light that goes around the whole light so it can be seen from the back and YOU can Now see the turn Signal yourself instead of that Display which is terrible in the sun.
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