near spyder crash

[heyharris1]

Hello all,

Not sure if you all have seen this yet but I came across it and it shows just how fast things can go wrong. If it has already been posten then I'm sorry

Jim

[youngers]

zipping along with plenty of room, then the margin of open space went too zero fast ! it looked like they knocked tires , but I guess that was the down shifting that made it look and sound like a tire clip !

[Road-Kill]

zipping along with plenty of room, then the margin of open space went too zero fast ! it looked like they knocked tires , but I guess that was the down shifting that made it look and sound like a tire clip !

Thats what I'm thinking. If they did hit I'm sure they would have dismounted and inspected their bikes. I posted on other threads that after doing accident investigations and being in an MC club for years.....other bikes and not cars are your 1st threat. My thoughts.

[blacklightning]

I would not want the guy with the camera following me. It simply looks like he got distracted and wasn't paying attention. Bad combo no matter what you drive.

[jaherbst]

I would surmise, more Spyder's run into Spyder's than cars run into Spyder's. At least this is true with Motorcycles and cars. Be careful who you ride

with and that their "Helmet is not empty". I have never been hit by a car but twice by other riders on motorcycles not paying attention.

Jack

[4 MARIE]

Solid white line means HOLD YOUR LANE.

also... the closing rate ? obviously too fast. and THAT is how fast things, go wrong. Fast things like cycle, rocket, etc..

[Chupaca]

It was a good thing there was enough sholder for that emergency pass. As mentioned above, more bikes run into each other especially in group rydes. They need to stress it is not a race and to relax and enjoy the ryde cause no one will be left behind. They should also group up according to ability maybe a slow group and a more agressive one. We cut the fast ones loose and they secure the space for the rest at the lunch site....

[finless]

They did not hit. Watch close.
There is a bump/rut in the road and that is what made it look like they hit (jar the camera) and a second rut in the road after he/she passes.
Needless to say the person was way too late getting on the brakes. Not paying attention maybe?
I have seen this almost happen a few times when on group rides. Be careful out there!

Bob

[HankD]

hayharris, thanks much for posting this. Regardless of who might have done what wrong, it's a great reminder for me to keep scanning ahead and be mentally alert and prepared at all times. I am sometimes guilty of letting my mind wander a bit on Interstate trips, and that video will help me to remember 3 things I had already learned on 2-wheelers over the years:

1. When things seem calm while you are riding, that is when you are usually most vulnerable.
2. When things go wrong while riding, they go wrong very very quickly.
3. There are very few if any "fender benders" when you are on a motorcycle.

Cheers!

[asp125]

Looks like a case of not paying attention. Bike in front slows down suddenly, probably due to seeing the rut in the road. Spyder in back wasn't quick enough on the brakes.

[PaladinLV]

Obviously not paying attention as brake lights were visibly on.
No HAND SIGNAL showing driver to rear that vehicle was slowing down.

Sorry to say the reality of Spyder in Group Rides are not educated in Group Riding. No hand signals, lack of discipline, lack of group riding techniques all played in this near encounter.
Example: In a Group Ride, changing lanes should look like a snake, meaning NO ONE changes lanes on their OWN, and NO ONE moves over UNTIL the bike in front moves. Spyder rides move as soon as they see the signal up front and they do NOT pass back a hand signals from the lead. Of course most leads to not give hand signals.

No Training, lots of ignorance out there about group riding, and everyone thinks they can be a "Lead" Road Captain!

AJ

[trucker1]

We'll passing a truck in a blind curve was bad enough. Then cutting him up short to pass the other car was even worse. It could have been a lot more than just running off the shoulder if the truck driver couldn't have gotten stopped In time. Getting mashed by a 80,000 lb truck isn't a good day .
Just saying guys. I know I've been doing it for 40 yrs. And seen a lot of stuff I wish I hadn't seen. Thinking before doing is a good rule of thumb.

[canamjhb]

After passing the Knight Transportation truck, there is an arrow directing traffic to the left lane (frame #15) There are several rumble strip warnings in the road leading up to the lane changes. Then the right lane is blocked out with diagonal white stripes. To me that indicates STAY LEFT. The rider instead opted to cut off the truck and move to the right lane. Then the left lane is blocked out so It looks like this area transitions from 2 down to 1 lane. Not visible in the video but I bet there were "One Lane Road Ahead" signs The rider was way too slow on brakes and evasive maneuvers. Just not paying attention. Probably more interested in getting ahead of the truck before the road went down to one lane. Then to make matters worse, no one used turn signals even when re-entering the highway. I don't mean to be offensive, but opt me out from riding with this group.

[Bob Denman]

Nobody got hurt, and nothing got wrecked!
But not for the lack of trying!
This lesson has been well-learned.

[RinconRyder]

Years ago I belonged to a small riding group. There was one guy in the group that kept having close calls with other riders and just himself at times. Paying attention was definitely not his forte. After a number of these near-accidents we removed him from the group. Forward several years later.....

He created another riding group, this time with his Harley friends. On one ride a meth-addled dump truck driver failed to see the stopped group at an intersection and plowed into our former rider and his wife. The wife and two other riders were killed. The rider was seriously injured. The meth head went to prison.

The one thing we kept telling our former rider.....use your mirrors! Karma is a bitch.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/36040752/n...ed-ariz-crash/

[ofdave]

the camera man was stupid, that's the bottom line
no excuse for not paying attention-no excuse
too fast? not a reason, no hand signal? not a reason
not paying attention? reason
worse than a soccer mon in an SUV, just stupid

[canamjhb]

Years ago I belonged to a small riding group. There was one guy in the group that kept having close calls with other riders and just himself at times. Paying attention was definitely not his forte. After a number of these near-accidents we removed him from the group. Forward several years later.....

He created another riding group, this time with his Harley friends. On one ride a meth-addled dump truck driver failed to see the stopped group at an intersection and plowed into our former rider and his wife. The wife and two other riders were killed. The rider was seriously injured. The meth head went to prison.

The one thing we kept telling our former rider.....use your mirrors! Karma is a bitch.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/36040752/n...ed-ariz-crash/

I remember that well. Seems like it was just yesterday. The images and memory of this tragedy are still fresh and haunt me today

[SpyderHands]

So, what actually happened?
Any commentary on the actual rider, outing, etc.?

[PrairieSpyder]

Thanks for posting this lesson for us all. We must pay attention at all times.

I would add to the other advice given that when you pull off to regroup, you pull all the way off the road-way, and not stop on the shoulder. There was a business parking area adjacent to the road and it would have been safer for all the Spyders to move over there than to slow/stop on the shoulder. Especially on a multi-lane road like that. You never know if those cage drivers are paying attention to what's on their right.

[Machinegunner]

On the way to Spyderfest this year, the girl in front of me passed a semi with her cruise on. I did the same. Just as I pulled in behind her, her cruise shut off. I was between her and the truck. Nobody hit anybody, but I don't want to know how close that truck was to me at 75mph. Her cruise never acted up again, but it did shut off then.