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SpyderPops F3 Brake Light Kit - Strobe not working as intended
Hi All,
I tried emailing Harvey directly on this but haven't heard back from him so just thought I would see if anyone else has experienced this issue before.
I have installed the spyderpops Rear BRT LED kit recently for my 2015 F3-S. The strobe feature for the LEDs is behaving oddly... see description below:
The install went fairly well and the LEDs seemed to be working fine before buttoning everything back up. The lights are working as intended minus one odd behavior with the "strobe" feature. When using the foot brake with the bike engine off they work as intended with strobe. However, when turning the ignition key to the on position or if the bike engine is running the strobe feature no longer functions. The lights still work when hitting the brake pedal but they will not strobe like they are suppose to, the LEDs just remain solid the whole time.
Has anyone with this kit seen this behavior before and/or know how to fix it? I have also seen the below two things happen randomly on occasion:
1. hyperflash to one or both turn signals. I have tried the "re-program" method several times but the issue continues to surface at random.
2. Several times at random I have gotten "bad key" errors on the dash when attempting to start the bike. I have two ignition keys and this will occur at random for one or both of them. I don't know if this is related at all to the installation of the LED kit but this issue was never present before installing the LEDs.
If anyone has any input/ideas it is much appreciated!
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Wait for Harvey to contact you or try him again. They are normally very responsive when notified.
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Originally Posted by trikermutha
Wait for Harvey to contact you or try him again. They are normally very responsive when notified.
emailed him two days ago with no response... also tried using the site form. Hopefully I hear back from him soon.
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Originally Posted by trobbins27
emailed him two days ago with no response... also tried using the site form. Hopefully I hear back from him soon.
Maybe they are at Some Spyder event or Vacation.. He is normally pretty quick with a response. May want to try a phone call too
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Originally Posted by trikermutha
Maybe they are at Some Spyder event or Vacation.. He is normally pretty quick with a response. May want to try a phone call too
Isn't Deadwood going on right now? Maybe he is there.
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SpyderPops F3 Brake Light Kit - Strobe not working as intended
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Tony I have LED taillights that I bought from Amazon. I also have Spyderpops run/brake/turn signal lights with strobe and they work as advertised. I'm not sure why yours won't work with the LED taillights.
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Originally Posted by JKMSPYDER
Tony I have LED taillights that I bought from Amazon. I also have Spyderpops run/brake/turn signal lights with strobe and they work as advertised. I'm not sure why yours won't work with the LED taillights.��
Im not sure either... but they didn't work with lamonsters LEDs... do you have a link for the LED lights you bought, I might try them out
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Originally Posted by Blue Star
I have the same problem as what you described, but with anther vendor's B/R/T LED's. I also still have the OEM LED taillights.
This thread is about an F3S, not F3T. The OEM tail lights on the F3S are NOT LED but conventional filament lamps. Very different wiring between the two and thus different kits for the strobes.
As for the LED tail lights not working with the strobe kits, there are resistors available to fix the issue so the strobe box and bike see the OEM current to the tail lights / turn signals. (they are combined on the F3S).
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
This thread is about an F3S, not F3T. The OEM tail lights on the F3S are NOT LED but conventional filament lamps. Very different wiring between the two and thus different kits for the strobes.
As for the LED tail lights not working with the strobe kits, there are resistors available to fix the issue so the strobe box and bike see the OEM current to the tail lights / turn signals. (they are combined on the F3S).
I'm sorry, as I did not notice that the OP was talking about the F3S. I'll delete my post as it does not relate.
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Past bikes
2010 RS - Sold
2012 RT - Sold
2014 RT - Testing completed
2016 F3-T Audio package - Sold
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
This thread is about an F3S, not F3T. The OEM tail lights on the F3S are NOT LED but conventional filament lamps. Very different wiring between the two and thus different kits for the strobes.
As for the LED tail lights not working with the strobe kits, there are resistors available to fix the issue so the strobe box and bike see the OEM current to the tail lights / turn signals. (they are combined on the F3S).
Do you have a link or know where I could get these resisters?
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Originally Posted by trobbins27
Do you have a link or know where I could get these resisters?
https://www.amazon.com/Resistors-Sig.../dp/B004EDF8HY
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
This thread is about an F3S, not F3T. The OEM tail lights on the F3S are NOT LED but conventional filament lamps. Very different wiring between the two and thus different kits for the strobes.
As for the LED tail lights not working with the strobe kits, there are resistors available to fix the issue so the strobe box and bike see the OEM current to the tail lights / turn signals. (they are combined on the F3S).
Got the resistors off of amazon. I just want to make sure before cutting any wires... I see three wires going to the taillights/turn signals. Am I to splice into the white and gray wires to the red resistor wire? I assume the black is the ground.
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Originally Posted by trobbins27
Got the resistors off of amazon. I just want to make sure before cutting any wires... I see three wires going to the taillights/turn signals. Am I to splice into the white and gray wires to the red resistor wire? I assume the black is the ground.
Do not cut the wires.
Black is ground. One wire is brake/turn the other is running lights. You need to connect the resistor across the brake/turn and ground. This presents a larger amp load than the LED alone, approximating the load from the original filament lamp. I do not have wiring diagrams handy right now to tell you which color wire is which but perhaps someone else can chime in for now.
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
Do not cut the wires.
Black is ground. One wire is brake/turn the other is running lights. You need to connect the resistor across the brake/turn and ground. This presents a larger amp load than the LED alone, approximating the load from the original filament lamp. I do not have wiring diagrams handy right now to tell you which color wire is which but perhaps someone else can chime in for now.
So you are saying to solder the two ends of the resister into all 3 wires?
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If not mistaken, there was a piece of paper included with Lemont's LEDs or Spyderpops RTB kit that stated how to reprogram the F3-S to use LEDs. When I get home I can scan and post if needed.
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Originally Posted by NorthAlabamaSpyder
If not mistaken, there was a piece of paper included with Lemont's LEDs or Spyderpops RTB kit that stated how to reprogram the F3-S to use LEDs. When I get home I can scan and post if needed.
Sure, that would be great, thanks! I have all of the paperwork with me... I don't see any instruction for this issue. The lamonster bulbs didn't come with any... just the bulbs themselves. The spyderpops documentation does have a page for fixing the "hyper flash" but not for what I am experiencing.
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Originally Posted by trobbins27
Sure, that would be great, thanks! I have all of the paperwork with me... I don't see any instruction for this issue. The lamonster bulbs didn't come with any... just the bulbs themselves. The spyderpops documentation does have a page for fixing the "hyper flash" but not for what I am experiencing.
oh, yea it was the hyper flash paperwork
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