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Originally Posted by akspyderman
Have to agree, it does cost bucks to provide a sales, service, and parts department. Lots of overhead going on there to break even.
What is not mentioned is the fact that most service seem to outcost other vehicles by a lot--unless your driving a caddy, bmw, or similar.
I had my break-in service on the Vulcan last week and it was fully a hundred dollars less than the same service done to the .
And most of the time now, we are not seeing certified mechanics either.
And the same dealer sells and services both brands.
My Honda Goldwings cost almost nothing to maintain. My Harley could easily cost as much or more than the Spyders. The brand and design are key in this conversation.
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Originally Posted by mcalva
Problem here is not only the charges but the dealers too.
When they work on your spyder you can see they have no idea about it.
Sometimes I had have to explain to the mechanic the way to dissasemble some parts.
I had an oil change and they fill too much the reservoir so I had to return to the service in order to make the oil level
again cause Spyder lost oil. Is not normal the dealer doesn't know make the oil level of the vehicles they sell.
So as here there are not other mechanichs where I could try I pay the charges expensive and the service is not very good.
I will try to learning as much as possible and only will visit the dealer when with my means and my knowledge doesn't reach
the answer.
.....And will add that it's not UN-COMMON for your Spyder to get damaged and/or missing fasteners at the Stealership , and they will deny it was them ...... Mike
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Here in Indy one of the dealers charges $140 hr. but $160 for spyders because of the Tupperware removal?? . East Tennessee Atv. charged me $125 for 1.5 hrs. will try to save my maintenance till I go back
Paul
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Originally Posted by greybeard
Here in Indy one of the dealers charges $140 hr. but $160 for spyders because of the Tupperware removal?? . East Tennessee Atv. charged me $125 for 1.5 hrs. will try to save my maintenance till I go back
Paul
Just a thought......would it matter if you removed the tupperware before taking to the dealer?
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Seems as if you could negotiate the labor rate. Perhaps some dealers would and others wouldn't but it wouldn't hurt to ask.
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I discovered long, long ago that I am worth the going labor rate if not more (because it is my bike so I am extra careful doing the work). I do all my own maintenance and have since the age of 14 (first bike license) - both road and dirt so I don't sweat the labor rate. As I get older it is more difficult to climb in and around the vehicle but I have the satisfaction of knowing more about it than someone who doesn't. It is an investment and has come in very handy when something unexpected happens out in the boonies.
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Originally Posted by RinconRyder
I discovered long, long ago that I am worth the going labor rate if not more (because it is my bike so I am extra careful doing the work). I do all my own maintenance and have since the age of 14 (first bike license) - both road and dirt so I don't sweat the labor rate. As I get older it is more difficult to climb in and around the vehicle but I have the satisfaction of knowing more about it than someone who doesn't. It is an investment and has come in very handy when something unexpected happens out in the boonies.
RR , I think you missed the point of my answers .... I wasn't putting you down .... In the 3 yrs I have owned my RT I have only taken my Spyder in for WARRANTY WORK , I wrench my bike just like you... also read my post # 28 ...... Mike
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Originally Posted by greybeard
Here in Indy one of the dealers charges $140 hr. but $160 for spyders because of the Tupperware removal?? . East Tennessee Atv. charged me $125 for 1.5 hrs. will try to save my maintenance till I go back
Paul
This seems very odd. They should love the extra time it takes to remove the plastic. More time equals more money not a higher per hour rate.
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Originally Posted by Crisis
Just did my oil change purchasing everything as always from Ron. $80.00.
Am I the only one who thinks THAT is pretty ridiculous too ?
What exactly costs $80 ??
3 quarts of oil and a filter ?????
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
Am I the only one who thinks THAT is pretty ridiculous too ?
What exactly costs $80 ??
3 quarts of oil and a filter ?????
5 quarts of synthetic oil, filter, 5 o-rings, 2 crush washers.
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
5 quarts of synthetic oil, filter, 5 o-rings, 2 crush washers.
2 filters. Oil and transmission
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I have a question:
Why does synthetic oil last 6,000 miles in a car and only 3,000 - 4,000 in a GS 998?
Thanks
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WELLLLLLL NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT
Originally Posted by Crisis
I have a question:
Why does synthetic oil last 6,000 miles in a car and only 3,000 - 4,000 in a GS 998?
Thanks
Because Cars don't Also use the same engine oil in the Transmission ..... the transmission causes the oil to Shear much quicker than the engine alone ever will ......... this means the oil Viscosity drops below a safe number ..... hope this helps ...... Mike
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I have had several Harley's and even they don't cost as much to service
as the Spyders, most dealers in this area charge $125 hr. +parts
Originally Posted by Easy Rider
Ever owned a Harley ??
What line of work are (or were) you in ? And how much do you "charge" for your services ??
Shop around; find another shop to do the work.
Some independents have enough experience to do the basic stuff......and often charge less.
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Synthetic oil lasts MUCH MUCH MUCH longer than that, ask your friendly AMSOIL dealer
I currently have a shop truck with Synthetic oil that has been in it for 2 years, I change the filter
every 3500 miles and add a quart of oil. the oil is clean I have it tested every 6 months.
I also have (Had) a GoldWing with well over 40K on the same oil and did the same as the truck above
change filters and add oil.
Originally Posted by Crisis
I have a question:
Why does synthetic oil last 6,000 miles in a car and only 3,000 - 4,000 in a GS 998?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Crisis
2 filters. Oil and transmission
We were discussing the maintenance costs of new spyders. This would indicate a 1330 engine which only gets one filter changed during an oil change but yes, 2 filters for an SE 998, plus 2 orings and 2 crush washers.
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Originally Posted by Motorcycledave
Synthetic oil lasts MUCH MUCH MUCH longer than that, ask your friendly AMSOIL dealer
I currently have a shop truck with Synthetic oil that has been in it for 2 years, I change the filter
every 3500 miles and add a quart of oil. the oil is clean I have it tested every 6 months.
I also have (Had) a GoldWing with well over 40K on the same oil and did the same as the truck above
change filters and add oil.
Oil analysis of even the almighty amsoil have shown it does not last past 5k in the 1330 Ace engine. Trans and clutch shear it too badly. Rotella fairs pretty well being designed for high shear in high pressure diesel injection systems and turbos but still not past 5k in the Ace. In fairness, my diesel does use 14 qts for an oil change so the shear is spread out a bit further.
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there is big diff between oil change and service so do it your selfers are im sure not going thru the extensive list of things that get checked during a service just my 2 cents
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Originally Posted by fatboy
there is big diff between oil change and service so do it your selfers are im sure not going thru the extensive list of things that get checked during a service just my 2 cents
First the list is not that long and takes less than 10 minutes to complete. Second, many dealers don't do them.
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