A Magic Mirror update.

[Buckeye Chuck 54]

I bought my Magic Mirror magnets and installed them on my '14 RT-S. I also bought the wide angle mirrors that stick right over the stock mirrors. So I took a ride to see how everything works. Then I had a problem. I noticed the mirrors needed adjusting. So I switched on my cruise control and with my right hand reached out to adjust the right mirror. Off popped the mirror, fell to the road with a crash and skiddled behind me to rest in the center of the road. I braked hard and turned around to retrieve the wayward mirror. Incredibly it was fine. Even the wide angle mirror was undamaged. I took it home to reattach it. I should say the wires should have held it, but I cut the wires last year when I added mirror lights. The crimp connectors didn't hold.
I lost reliability in the magnets. So I came up with a solution. I took off the top magnet and put the stock pin setup back on, still using the bottom 2 magnets.
Problem solved. The mirrors still pop off the way they always did but now I don't think I'm going to damage them doing so.
The instructions for magnet installation said to use the spacer between the magnet and body. I did that and didn't like that there was still a gap between the mirror and body. So I took out the spacer on the front magnet. Now I have what I wanted, a tight mirror that fits flush and looks like it should.
Buckeye Chuck

[trikermutha]

some have removed the top magnet and reinstalled the top stock clip while leaving the lower two magnets on..

I never liked or trusted butt connectors. Surprised you didn't use a plug adapter with wires you can spice into.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I bought my Magic Mirror magnets and installed them on my '14 RT-S. I also bought the wide angle mirrors that stick right over the stock mirrors. So I took a ride to see how everything works. Then I had a problem. I noticed the mirrors needed adjusting. So I switched on my cruise control and with my right hand reached out to adjust the right mirror. Off popped the mirror, fell to the road with a crash and skiddled behind me to rest in the center of the road. I braked hard and turned around to retrieve the wayward mirror. Incredibly it was fine. Even the wide angle mirror was undamaged. I took it home to reattach it. I should say the wires should have held it, but I cut the wires last year when I added mirror lights. The crimp connectors didn't hold.
I lost reliability in the magnets. So I came up with a solution. I took off the top magnet and put the stock pin setup back on, still using the bottom 2 magnets.
Problem solved. The mirrors still pop off the way they always did but now I don't think I'm going to damage them doing so.
The instructions for magnet installation said to use the spacer between the magnet and body. I did that and didn't like that there was still a gap between the mirror and body. So I took out the spacer on the front magnet. Now I have what I wanted, a tight mirror that fits flush and looks like it should.
Buckeye Chuck

Chuck, glad you discovered this improvement ....... however Lamont and I posted this fix a couple of days ago ..... It's amazing what you can learn on this forum, if your able to monitor it regularly ........... Mike

[taxmyzer]

Adjust your mirrors while riding and you will avoid them falling off. I have had the magic mirrors on a little more than 2 months without issue. For safety I used the tethers.

[Chupaca]

New products will always need the ultimate "Joe Public" testing to see how well they really are. Thanks for posting your problem and solution will help make mods to the system where needed....

[Bob Denman]

Adjust your mirrors while riding and you will avoid them falling off. I have had the magic mirrors on a little more than 2 months without issue. For safety I used the tethers.

And I am using the tethers also!

[cptjam]

We did a set this weekend. I did not like the front edge gap, or why the top post needed to be replaced. I think if the magnets are to replace the clips, leave the top post alone. Drop the price 33%, and only provide the bottom two.
Vicky, call Ann.

[ThreeWheels]

We did a set this weekend. I did not like the front edge gap, or why the top post needed to be replaced. I think if the magnets are to replace the clips, leave the top post alone. Drop the price 33%, and only provide the bottom two.
Vicky, call Ann.

That's a GREAT idea.
Except I don't know Vicky, or Ann.
But I'd consider the Magic Mirrors with this configuration.

[Mazo EMS2]

I have a set of 'em and love em. No problems at all. To me it only makes sense to add a tether, if for no other reason, to hold them while they hang there during service. I personally used a 6" steel fishing leader on each one. I tried a set of "knock-offs" that someone else made, and they were far inferior to the Magic Mirrors. I wonder if some folks just are not getting the M/M's installed properly?

[BoilerAnimal]

[Never] Adjust your mirrors while riding and you will avoid them falling off. I have had the magic mirrors on a little more than 2 months without issue. For safety I used the tethers.

And you won't run off the road, cross into another lane, run into a ditch or hit someone or something!

[KX5062]

I really like mine. I too built a tether, but that's just because I'm being paranoid. Leave the OEM top bracket in place or use all three magnet, either way it is a brilliant solution to a problematic design.

[Buckeye Chuck 54]

Adjust your mirrors while riding and you will avoid them falling off. I have had the magic mirrors on a little more than 2 months without issue. For safety I used the tethers.

Yes, I was lucky to still have my stock mirrors. Somebody (me) thought the mirrors would hold tight. But I added the wide angle mirrors and sitting still couldn't get a good view of what's behind.
Forget the tethers, don't need them. Using the top stock pin you don't have to worry about them falling off.
Chuck

[Buckeye Chuck 54]

Chuck, glad you discovered this improvement ....... however Lamont and I posted this fix a couple of days ago ..... It's amazing what you can learn on this forum, if your able to monitor it regularly ........... Mike

It's strange I couldn't find anything from you or Lamont posting anything about this. I read SL.com every day. I posted this because I didn't want anybody to experience the same problem I had.
What the heck....
Buck

[Buckeye Chuck 54]

We did a set this weekend. I did not like the front edge gap, or why the top post needed to be replaced. I think if the magnets are to replace the clips, leave the top post alone. Drop the price 33%, and only provide the bottom two.
Vicky, call Ann.

Yup, hey, I have 2 magnets stuck to my workbench at home gathering dust. Maybe another rider has 2 also. We can get together and make a deal! But package them better than what I had delivered to my mailbox. They were at my home for a few days before I found them, stuck to the top of my steel box. Comical. Chuck

[JP58]

Mine will be here tomorrow. Good thing I have a plastic mail box.

[JP58]

Yup, hey, I have 2 magnets stuck to my workbench at home gathering dust. Maybe another rider has 2 also. We can get together and make a deal! But package them better than what I had delivered to my mailbox. They were at my home for a few days before I found them, stuck to the top of my steel box. Comical. Chuck

I am probably going to leave the factory top one on. If so we could sell together. I will let you know tomorrow when they get here.

[Peter Aawen]

..... I wonder if some folks just are not getting the M/M's installed properly?

The more I hear of 'poor alignment', 'ugly gaps', & things like mirrors falling off while adjusting them, the more I think that there's gotta be a WHOLE LOT of that out there?!?

But I just can't come to grips with the HOW?!?

They really aren't hard to install at all; it's a very simple & straightforward process that even the most inept home spanner-spinner should be able to do without any supervision or prior knowledge apart from reading the instruction sheet/maybe watching one or more of the videos (there are now some damn good videos out there showing 'how to'); but if there are ANY with 'poor alignment' or 'ugly gaps' or even mirrors 'just falling off while adjusting', & it seems there are, then there's just gotta be some issues with their installation & therefore magic mirror magnets out there that AREN'T & CAN'T have been installed properly?!? But HOW?!?

Ps: we must have different RT mirror mounts here in Oz, the MAJOR reason behind developing these in the first place was the poor quality & repeated failure of the TOP OE mirror mounts; the additional issues with the bottom mounts/clips eventually starting to bend & fail too was just the final impetus for replacing them ALL, instead of just replacing the top pellets & pins?!?

[Ramg66]

I agree, I love my MM, I just went out and adjusted my mirrors and all was good. I can't see them knocking off that easy. Mine are all staying, but will install tether now. Good luck.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

It's strange I couldn't find anything from you or Lamont posting anything about this. I read SL.com every day. I posted this because I didn't want anybody to experience the same problem I had.
What the heck....
Buck

The postings were on this Thread ...." Magic Mirrors causing guages to misread " ...LaMonts was post #9 & mine was post #11

[irvin48]

i too have the M M's and tricled wide mirrors. also homemade tethers . have
adjusted them with no probs. maybe one of those 1 in a million things. im
happy with both products.--irv

[DGoebel]

I also have MM's installed per instructions, did have the too large front gap, did remove that spacer, using all three magnets each side, have the TricLED Wide-Vue mirrors and rode 1700 miles of Midwest roads this weekend, no problems! And I can categorically say that NE, SD, and ND roads are much bumpier than MN roads. My Fitbit told me so....57,000 plus steps recorded while riding the Smackdab Saturday, rode 500 miles to the start and 500 miles back home, only got half as many steps recorded.... Mirrors didn't wiggle, bounce or come off. No tethers here either.. Not arguing, just my own personal experience.

[cognaccruiser]

Just my own experience too.
Put them on prior to going across country and back plus extra distance. So they have over 12,000 km/8,000 miles. No tether, no unusual gap, zero vibration or movement and that was over some rough roads that had me concerned about damage to the Spyder.
Just my 2 cents but I have complete faith in them.

Gary

[oldguyinTX]

I installed mine about 1 1/2 months ago, according to both written instructions and a YouTube video, and I did use the tether. I have noticed less vibration in the mirrors after about 500 or so miles. I had gotten into the habit of carrying spare top pintles & a torx screwdriver, since I had one mirror dangling from the bottom mounts because the top one broke. Then, I once had BOTH mirrors fall off at the same time, and of course the top pintles were broken. I feel much more confident now with the MM's, and have no worries of losing a mirror.