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"Bad Key"
Does anyone know if there is a work around for a "Bad Key". Happening all to often lately. Made an appt. for next week at the dealer but don't want to get stranded in the mean time. TIA
2015 F3 SE6 Black and Chrome, Smoothspyder Backrest and more to come.
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Originally Posted by Mikind7
Does anyone know if there is a work around for a "Bad Key". Happening all to often lately. Made an appt. for next week at the dealer but don't want to get stranded in the mean time. TIA
Carry the other key. When the first one fails then immediately put the other one in. If that fails then you know its the computer.
Not trying to be a smart *ss but that's what I would do.
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Originally Posted by Road-Kill
Carry the other key. When the first one fails then immediately put the other one in. If that fails then you know its the computer.
Not trying to be a smart *ss but that's what I would do.
That's what I would do also.
Nothing disrespectful about saying that.
And if you only have ONE key, get another one made ASAP.
You are more likely to become stranded by human error than from equipment failure.
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Originally Posted by Road-Kill
Carry the other key. When the first one fails then immediately put the other one in. If that fails then you know its the computer.
Not trying to be a smart *ss but that's what I would do.
Tried both keys, I thought maybe since I carried both keys that was the issue but happens with one or the other or both near the bike. I am just trying to determine if there is a set of switch codes like on my old Harley to bypass security. I have an appt to have the DSS checked
2015 F3 SE6 Black and Chrome, Smoothspyder Backrest and more to come.
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Readers Digest version...
DESS
Have it turned off
Live happily ever after
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
Readers Digest version...
DESS
Have it turned off
Live happily ever after
Can it be easily disabled?
2015 F3 SE6 Black and Chrome, Smoothspyder Backrest and more to come.
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Originally Posted by Mikind7
Can it be easily disabled?
Find a bike thief and ask him.
I certainly hope not.......or else it would be worse than useless.
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Yupp. DESS
Yupp eventually u won't be able to start,only push it...lol. Likely the DESS and the antenna parts to it need replaced. Been there done that on F3S model too!
'15 F3S SE6 Pearly White (Hers)
'16 F3S SE6 Special Series Triple Black (His)
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Originally Posted by Easy Rider
Find a bike thief and ask him.
I certainly hope not.......or else it would be worse than useless.
Its worse than useless.
Easily defeated. It only serves to keep you from riding. For the uneducated casual thief, the key alone is more than sufficient.
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Originally Posted by Mikind7
Can it be easily disabled?
Toggle one setting in BUDS. Even without a working key.
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DESS
Originally Posted by jcthorne
Readers Digest version...
DESS
Have it turned off
Live happily ever after
Tell me more JC, is that even an option, would it it have to be done by a dealer,
and what would it cost ?
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Monique,
2016 F3t pearl white
Ultimate driver back rest
12v power outlet for batt. tender
Doc Humphries' vibration damper
factory floorboards
added topcase
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I got the bad key code. Dealer checked computer and either updated it or reset it. No problem since.
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Originally Posted by Machinegunner
I got the bad key code. Dealer checked computer and either updated it or reset it. No problem since.
It will be back. Likely when you are far from home or in a hurry.
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Originally Posted by rays hell
Tell me more JC, is that even an option, would it it have to be done by a dealer,
and what would it cost ?
Requires a Megatech licence version of BUDS. Most dealers do not buy this level licence. There are a few that do and a few independent shops as it allows for much better diagnostics and settings. Its not cheap.
If we are not doing anything else, we charge $35 for a BUDS diagnostics report and can disable the DESS while in there. If we are doing any other work at the same time, I usually flip the toggle if asked free of charge. I never alter this setting unless the owner specifically asks for it.
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DESS
Thanks JC, it would be nice to know you could get a key made without having it programmed
or cloned and peace of mind every time you put the key in and hit the starter the DESS is not
going to sand in the way.
I'll be asking my dealer about this.
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Monique,
2016 F3t pearl white
Ultimate driver back rest
12v power outlet for batt. tender
Doc Humphries' vibration damper
factory floorboards
added topcase
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Originally Posted by Mikind7
Does anyone know if there is a work around for a "Bad Key". Happening all to often lately. Made an appt. for next week at the dealer but don't want to get stranded in the mean time. TIA
I started a thread " D.E.S.S. KEY CODE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted on 8/13/2015 it is 26 pages long with some very helpful info, and pictures. Like Bob said in his post # 4. Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
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Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
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Dealer needs to use buds to let the computer re-learn the keys, should be a warranty item. Very simple procedure and should not take more than 30 minutes.
Cruzr Joe
2018 F3 Limited, BRP Driver Backrest, Spyderpops Lighted Bump Skid, Dual Spyclops Light, Mirror Turn Signals, Laser Alignment, Engine LEDs, Fog Lights With Halo's, Cushion Handgrips, BRT LEDs, and Under Lighting, Lamonster IPS, (with Clock), F4 25" Vented Windshield with Wings, Airhawk "R" Cushions. Position 4 Brake setting, Short reach Handlebars, Dash Mounted Voltmeter and 12 Volt Plug. Set of 3rd pegs. Extended Passenger Seat. Exterior BRP Connect setup, Ultimate Trailer
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Originally Posted by SpyDerSts
Yupp eventually u won't be able to start,only push it...lol. Likely the DESS and the antenna parts to it need replaced. Been there done that on F3S model too!
get the antenna/and the switch replaced. I have had it done twice( July, 2015, and again Aug. 2015 both were covered under warranty) on my 2014RTS-SE6 I also started a Thread.
Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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Originally Posted by rays hell
Thanks JC, it would be nice to know you could get a key made without having it programmed
or cloned and peace of mind every time you put the key in and hit the starter the DESS is not
going to sand in the way.
I'll be asking my dealer about this.
Have your dealer reprogram the keys, change the switch, change the D.E.S.S module. I have had this done on my 2014RTS-SE6. Also, I started a thread " D.E.S.S. KEY CODE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It has some very helpful info. with pictures. Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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Originally Posted by Cruzr Joe
Dealer needs to use buds to let the computer re-learn the keys, should be a warranty item. Very simple procedure and should not take more than 30 minutes.
Cruzr Joe
Yes, it is a warranty item, look at my thread" D.E.S.S KEY CODE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I posted it. Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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