ECU remap for more torque

[loisk]

A fellow in Western Australia is selling an F3S which has had an ECU remap done by the authorised Seadoo dealer.

He tells me that hp went from 115 to 127
and Nm from 130 to 145

As he says, when in 3rd gear at 60kph pre-remap = need to downchange gear,
after remap "bike just goes"

His summary is more torque, more enjoyable below 3000rpm, better throttle response, less gear changing so improved mpg. Easily reversible.

Nb we do not have the long belt/different sprocket here in oz.n

My query is - has anyone else heard of this ? ?

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

I have not heard anything about this, but I would like to.

[Chupaca]

outside of the fuel controlling units (after market) have not heard any on changing the computers. Much less a dealer...

[loisk]

Meantime, I am trying to find out more...

more...

Info so far indicates that the remap is being done "unofficially" by a dealer (possibly two)

So

- it seems it can be done
- if unofficial, presumably there is the possibility of warranty issues

hmmm

[Bob Denman]

Who will be the first to have it done, and report back?
If this can be done to the F3: it can also be made to work for an RT also!

[Road-Kill]

A fellow in Western Australia is selling an F3S which has had an ECU remap done by the authorised Seadoo dealer.

He tells me that hp went from 115 to 127
and Nm from 130 to 145

As he says, when in 3rd gear at 60kph pre-remap = need to downchange gear,
after remap "bike just goes"

His summary is more torque, more enjoyable below 3000rpm, better throttle response, less gear changing so improved mpg. Easily reversible.

Nb we do not have the long belt/different sprocket here in oz.n

My query is - has anyone else heard of this ? ?

Every single person I know that either messes with their PC or adds a phantom "chip" ends up with little to no power and then removes it. Walk away from any machine that was tampered with. The Spyder has too much or enough power as is so why the need for a few extra foot pounds of torque? My thoughts.

[Bob Denman]

It's just our curious nature...
If these bikes had 1,000 horsepower, top speeds over 300mph, and got over 150 mpg: you can bet that somebody would try to "Improve" them!

[trikermutha]

Torque is a good thing IMO. A little more couldn't hurt anything as long as you don't go crazy with all kinds of other mods. Hell the Harleys have more Torgue than the Spyder and its only a 2 cylinder

[jaherbst]

Why????

[Bob Denman]

Why????

Jack,
Aren't you the fella who has Twin Turbos on his pickup truck??
The answer to your question would seem to be: "Why not?"

[jcthorne]

Why????

You're
asking why someone would want more torque or power?


Just hand in your man card at the door.

[Bob Denman]

Read down through his signature line's list of vehicles...

[cuznjohn]

in a way i have to agree with the above post of WHY. after all i was happy with the power of the 1330 for such a big wind catcher that it was, it moved pretty good. and god forbid the motor went sour, with the buds system report telling everything about the bike. and if for some reason it spits out that it was re-mapped, it might void the warranty on the motor

[PaladinLV]

HD have more torque NOW, but pre 107s did not.

AJ

Torque is a good thing IMO. A little more couldn't hurt anything as long as you don't go crazy with all kinds of other mods. Hell the Harleys have more Torgue than the Spyder and its only a 2 cylinder

[monkeyboymorton]

Every single person I know that either messes with their PC or adds a phantom "chip" ends up with little to no power and then removes it. Walk away from any machine that was tampered with. The Spyder has too much or enough power as is so why the need for a few extra foot pounds of torque? My thoughts.

Got to disagree, remapping in the performance car world is perfectly normal and can be done with no impact on reliability. I've remapped a number myself to great effect. They have all been turbo engines so much easier to get more bhp from a map. Not sure how much could be gained from the N/A engine in the spyder, but a bump to 127 seems feasible.

I would go for this if someone in the UK started doing them. My warranty is up anyway and I will only go to a dealer now if it breaks in such a way that I or a local bike shop can't fix it.

[monkeyboymorton]

His summary is more torque, more enjoyable below 3000rpm, better throttle response, less gear changing so improved mpg.

This sounds exactly like my experience of remapping cars. They were always nicer to drive afterwards

[ARtraveler]

If there is any warranty left, I would have to guess its been voided. Over the years, fuel mapping, power commanders, Hindel exhausts etc. have usually led to unwanted problems unless they were installed with no glitches.

Since I don't belong to the "more power Scotty" group, I would not be in the market for a "souped up" version of the . They are fidgety enough without any additional help--IMO.

[Colin]

I have an F3 SM6, and from day one it was soooo sluggish in 2nd gear. Much like the ST was.
I happened to be at my dealer at the same time the BRP Aftersales Tech from Australia was there.
He asked me how I liked my F3, and I told him I loved it, but 2nd gear was rubbish, very sluggish then
takes of when it feels like it. To cut a long story short, he advised they were working on a program
to remedy it. A couple of weeks later I replaced my rear tyre. And as I left the dealer, I had 2nd Gear!!!
That is the only authorized map changing that I know of. And I have asked a couple of times.
There is a guy in Auckland that does it, but he is not an Authorised Dealer

[BajaRon]

Got to disagree, remapping in the performance car world is perfectly normal and can be done with no impact on reliability. I've remapped a number myself to great effect. They have all been turbo engines so much easier to get more bhp from a map. Not sure how much could be gained from the N/A engine in the spyder, but a bump to 127 seems feasible.

I would go for this if someone in the UK started doing them. My warranty is up anyway and I will only go to a dealer now if it breaks in such a way that I or a local bike shop can't fix it.

I agree. If done correctly it is a complete 'Win-Win' situation. Many times you can get more power, smoother power, and even increased fuel mileage. I'd be interested.

[loisk]

I have an F3 SM6, and from day one it was soooo sluggish in 2nd gear. Much like the ST was.
I happened to be at my dealer at the same time the BRP Aftersales Tech from Australia was there.
He asked me how I liked my F3, and I told him I loved it, but 2nd gear was rubbish, very sluggish then
takes of when it feels like it. To cut a long story short, he advised they were working on a program
to remedy it. A couple of weeks later I replaced my rear tyre. And as I left the dealer, I had 2nd Gear!!!
That is the only authorized map changing that I know of. And I have asked a couple of times.
There is a guy in Auckland that does it, but he is not an Authorised Dealer

Thank you, Colin. That's the kind of change I am after - nothing to do with top speed. Now I have a few more facts to take to my dealer. Don't suppose you recall the name of the brp after sales tech perchance?

Even though my F3S is out of warranty, I would prefer an 'authorised' remap.

[Colin]

Thank you, Colin. That's the kind of change I am after - nothing to do with top speed. Now I have a few more facts to take to my dealer. Don't suppose you recall the name of the brp after sales tech perchance?

Even though my F3S is out of warranty, I would prefer an 'authorised' remap.

Hi Lois, I think his name was Nick, but I'm not sure if he is still there. But I'm sure there will be someone at BRP
that would know about it.
Hopefully you get it sorted

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

People - we're talking about .....12 HP ..... 10% +/- ...... My eyebrows aren't going to rise until they see 25 % minimum and my heartrate isn't going to increase until at least 40% ............. you've got cars at the drag strip bumping up 500 HP and getting .05 a second quicker .....so 12 HP isn't moving anyone's Spyder into the " DANGER ZONE " ........ JMHO ......... Mike

[PaladinLV]

I been running a Power Commander on my 2014 RT for 2 years and 16K miles.
No problems with Spyder or Warranty!

AJ

If there is any warranty left, I would have to guess its been voided. Over the years, fuel mapping, power commanders, Hindel exhausts etc. have usually led to unwanted problems unless they were installed with no glitches.

Since I don't belong to the "more power Scotty" group, I would not be in the market for a "souped up" version of the . They are fidgety enough without any additional help--IMO.

[rustynail51]

I find that my Spyder has plenty of what I need doing things to improve or increase performance will decrease reliability and and cause failures and increase complaints seams like there is plenty of complaining already.

[loisk]

I find that my Spyder has plenty of what I need doing things to improve or increase performance will decrease reliability and and cause failures and increase complaints seams like there is plenty of complaining already.

I hope you don't think I am complaining - I'm not.

But if I can get a lead on an authorised remap to get rid of the flat spot, then I will.