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    Default Tire Sealants

    I am curious to peoples thoughts about RIDE ON vs Amerseal that Lamont is selling.

    I had bought RIDE ON but haven't installed it yet. Thinking o f Amerseal because of the viciousness (Viscostity) of it, not as thick as RIDE ON to install through the valve stem.

    Guess I could use the RIDE ON in a trailer tire or something if Amerseal is that much better.

    Anyway- thanks for your inputs---just curious! Enjoy the week!
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    I have used both Ride-On and AmerSeal. I have never had a problem with either product nor a flat tire. However, I have had to add air to the OEM tires over time with Ride-On which was in my previous set of tires. So far with a new set of OEM tires with AmerSeal I haven't had to add air yet but it's only been a month. I switched to AmerSeal after watching Lamont's video. I know that this product will work and it was easier to install.
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    Default Not a fan....

    I do wonder how many flats spyder ryders have gotten over the seasons...🤔 Not a fan of putting anything into the tires and carry a mushroom plug kit for such occasions. Now if you feel comfortable with it I would think Lamont would have tested what he sells and it would be the way to go.....
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    Think Lamont had 2 issues with the ride-on. 1. He saw a tire lose a good bit of air when punctured with just a common nail or screw and 2. The shaking on startup if it sits. I have had ride-on in for a while and it has helped a vibration I had. I have not had a flat although as I'm typing my FOBO is telling me one tire is a pound and a half low so I'll have to see what that is all about. As for the thud on startup, down here in FL I don't let it sit long enough to pool back at the bottom of the tire so there has only been one time when I didn't ride for almost 2 weeks when I started it did shake for a few miles till it got redistributed but I don't normally have that issue.

    ALl that said now that I'm changing my tires out I will probably go with Centramatics for the balancing and may add the Amerseal in or just carry the mushroom plugs. The advantage to the Amerseal is if you don't catch it right away w/o Amerseal you would potentially lose alot of air so would need a pump with you all the time whereas w/ Amerseal it should seal it up and either not need more air or get somewhere to fill only a few pounds low. I may go with that rechargeable pump and if I do and its small enough may just opt for the plugs.
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    I used Ride on and still had a flat. I'm not a fan of putting gunk in the tires. I carry a plug kit and compressor.
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    Default PLUG KIT

    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I used Ride on and still had a flat. I'm not a fan of putting gunk in the tires. I carry a plug kit and compressor.

    Does anyone have info on a good plug kit ? Looking for the most bang for the buck.....Thanks

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    I've used Ride-On for years and promoted it but to my knowledge I never had a nail or screw in a tire. The one time I did see a nail in a tire was at the owners event in CO and when I comments they should have used Ride-On in it they said it had it. That's when I quit using it. When I was approached by Amer Seal we did test it before bringing it into the store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kredab View Post
    Does anyone have info on a good plug kit ? Looking for the most bang for the buck.....Thanks
    The Stop & Go Tire Plugger is the best kit out there for motorcycles. It's around $40

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    I know slime tire sealant can make steel wheels rust inside. Not sure what it does to aluminum wheels but is Amerseal safe for aluminum? I'm trying to decide between having the sealant or just having a plug kit. Thanks for the heads up on the Stop & go Lamont.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    The Stop & Go Tire Plugger is the best kit out there for motorcycles. It's around $40
    http://www.stopngo.com/standard-model-tire-plugger/
    That's the one I have! Just looked. Bought it 11 years ago when I got my Goldwing. Have never used it for a m/c tire but have plugged a few ATV tires with it! Works great, and the plugs are still good!

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    How do tire dealers like unmounting a tire filled with this, when they pop the tire from the rim and this stuff dumps out? I've heard they REALLY don't like Slime, a common tire sealer/balancer sold by many automotive stores. I've also heard that Slime is largely responsible for those corrosion horror stories.

    What makes Ride-On or Amerseal any different?

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    Bump- Does anyone know about how corrosive Amerseal is to aluminum??

    Why AmerSeal®?

    EASY TO USE

    Ready to use with no mixing or special preparation needed.
    Since there is no need to completely deflate the tire, it only takes a few minutes to install with our hand injector pump.

    NO MESS
    100% water soluble for easy cleanout of a tire if recapping or patching a large puncture is required.-

    WON'T HARM TIRE OR WHEEL
    Sealing action is completely mechanical - there is no chemical reaction that might harm the tire or cause corrosion on the wheel.
    Does not void tire warranty.

    WILL NOT SEPARATE
    Stays pH neutral and remains effective for the life of the tire.

    STAYS IN PLACE
    Will not migrate to the bottom of the tire when the vehicle is stopped.
    Protection is permanent!

    EFFECTIVE IN EXTREME WEATHER
    Remains fluid and effective from 45°F below zero to over 200°F

    SAFE TO USE AND SHIP
    Contains no asbestos fibers. (As a safety precaution, eye protection is recommended when injecting into high pressure industrial tires.)
    Ships world wide as a NON-hazardous material and is NON-explosive and NON-flammable.

    EFFECTIVENESS
    Seals l/4inch punctures in tread area, larger punctures in heavy ply tires.
    Seals most bead and rim leaks.
    Extremely effective in tubeless tires, less effective in tube type tires.

    SAFE TO DISPOSE
    Meets EPA standards for disposal by municipal sewage systems
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    http://www.stopngo.com/standard-model-tire-plugger/
    That's the one I have! Just looked. Bought it 11 years ago when I got my Goldwing. Have never used it for a m/c tire but have plugged a few ATV tires with it! Works great, and the plugs are still good!

    Just ordered - thanks for the info

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    I don't see where Amerseal is a tire balancer as well a puncture repair. Does it not accomplish tire balancing?
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    Ann, I'm with you on this one. Plug kit and compressor. And if worse comes to worse I'll slime it until I can get somewhere to find a new tire. I saw a Utube demo of all the plug kits and they all had the same success/failure rate. One kit wasn't any better or worse than the other, maybe one was just easier to use than the another. Just make sure you have a small ground cloth to wallow around on, if you know what I mean. That reminds me, I've got to get a gremlin bell.

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    how much ride-on do i need for my 2014 RT se6?

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    Stop-n-Go plug kit and a gremlin bell----- and of course no flat tires.
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    Last time I went to the Ride-On site to make a purchase they were out of product, so I signed up for them to notify me when product was available. That was about a month ago, I'm still waiting. I'm gonna check on the AmerSeal at Lamonster's.
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    I've been using Ride-On for years. Never had a flat. But then, never had anything penetrate the tire, so not a good test. For any of the sealants to work, the puncture has to be in the tread area. Anything on the sidewall and you're toast, with tire sealant or plug kit. I've tried both the car tire and motorcycle tire Ride-On in my Spyder/Ryker. I don't like the motorcycle version nearly as well as the car version. Since car tires are what comes on our Spyder/Ryker, this makes sense to me.

    The difference I've noticed is that the motorcycle tire version does not give you the 'Bump' issue nearly as badly after sitting a long time. And, it balances out sooner. I'm assuming less viscous. But it doesn't balance as well. In other words. The motorcycle version will not correct as much out of balance as the car version. The car version does give you a noticeable 'Bump' after sitting more than 2 weeks. And it takes a few miles to completely relocate. Longer when cold. Less when the weather and pavement is hot. Since my priority (after puncture protection) is tire balance. And I don't mind a little bump for a few miles at the beginning of some rides. I prefer the car tire version.

    My tire guy does not mind the Ride-On as it stays completely in the tread area of the tire. And it stays there during mount and dismount. It's not a factor. It doesn't get anywhere near the bead area. The sidewall is completely clean as well. It isn't a mess like Slime. Ride-On does not create any issues with corrosion or reaction with the aluminum wheels.

    Having said all of this. I will be switching to Lamont's product with my next tire change. I've got a Kenda Kanine sitting in the garage right now.
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