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    Default Thinking about a two wheeler

    I've owned spyders since they came out. Started in 2008 with an RS and now have a 2015 F3 . Both SE5, no previous motorcycle experience. Should I start with a 300cc or a 600, Spyder is a 1330, but I assume much less torque than a Yamaha R6, what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvmdf View Post
    I've owned spyders since they came out. Started in 2008 with an RS and now have a 2015 F3 . Both SE5, no previous motorcycle experience. Should I start with a 300cc or a 600, Spyder is a 1330, but I assume much less torque than a Yamaha R6, what do you think?
    First of all you need to stay away from the R6 or anything similar. You will end up seriously injured, dead or so frightened that you will sell it as quick as possible. Now as to what type of machine to get I would suggest something in the 250cc to 500cc range. There are a lot choices out there. I strongly suggest you get something with ABS. I also think a maxi scooter is a very good choice. Again something with ABS. My personal choice would be the BMW 650GT. But there's also the Honda Silverwing and the Suzuki Burgman 650. Don't sell the maxi scooters short - you can learn a lot from them. In any case stay away from supersports in the beginning stages. After you have put a few thousand miles on something more docile then you can start thinking high performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dndfindley View Post
    First of all you need to stay away from the R6 or anything similar. You will end up seriously injured, dead or so frightened that you will sell it as quick as possible. Now as to what type of machine to get I would suggest something in the 250cc to 500cc range. There are a lot choices out there. I strongly suggest you get something with ABS. I also think a maxi scooter is a very good choice. Again something with ABS. My personal choice would be the BMW 650GT. But there's also the Honda Silverwing and the Suzuki Burgman 650. Don't sell the maxi scooters short - you can learn a lot from them. In any case stay away from supersports in the beginning stages. After you have put a few thousand miles on something more docile then you can start thinking high performance.
    Good points.
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    you are in the unenviable position of living in one of the most dangerous 2 wheel environments
    in the Nation. I have done two wheeled battle in SoCal over 25 years. Have kissed the pavement
    a couple times, through no fault of my own... drunk driver....red light flyer.
    I'm not saying you can't do it. I have kind of lost the nerve myself. But if you are going to do it,
    Adopt the mindset right now, that every other vehicle on the road is out to kill you.
    This is NO JOKE. Ahead, behind, beside. Traveling your direction or coming towards you. EVERY OTHER VEHICLE
    Also you need to start ALWAYS having an "exit plan" for those times when you are forced off the road,
    or out of your lane. MSF course is fine.
    I guess that's my two cents worth. Good luck.
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    I'm going to hit you first with a few questions:

    • What sitting position did you prefer RS or F3?
    • What sort of roads do you mainly ride? (e.g. back road bendy, highways or city streets)
    • Do you ride at night?
    • Do you want to ride unmade/gravel roads?
    • What sort of distance is your average ride?
    • Do you normally ride solo or two up?
    • Are you planning to make multi-day trips?

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    Default yamahauler !

    I have the 650 Yamaha - v-star it is a low in the saddle cruiser bike , more for 1 rider , 2 can ride but it is a lot more fun with single rider , it has enough pick -up too get you down the road , but I would not go on a 1000 mile ride on a smaller bike like a 500 - 650 , long rides above , or around 1,ooo c.c. I have tooled around on a 250 but I am shorter in the leg areas , and it is a fun little cycle for trips around a rural area

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    I would suggest a Suzuki V-Strom 650. In my opinion there is no better all around bike as far as versatility and reliability go. And the best thing is, they are cheap and plentiful.

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    If you're going to check out the World of "leaners"; you're going to need to spend a TON of time deciding which one:
    fits best
    matches your riding style
    has the proper features
    has enough power (but not too much! )

    ...and most importantly...

    You are most comfortable with!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8er View Post
    I would suggest a Suzuki V-Strom 650. In my opinion there is no better all around bike as far as versatility and reliability go. And the best thing is, they are cheap and plentiful.

    My 650 V Strom is a lot of fun. Check out the new Kawasaki Vulcan S (650).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dvmdf View Post
    I've owned spyders since they came out. Started in 2008 with an RS and now have a 2015 F3 . Both SE5, no previous motorcycle experience. Should I start with a 300cc or a 600, Spyder is a 1330, but I assume much less torque than a Yamaha R6, what do you think?
    I'm not sure about California but in many states if you have a 3-wheel motorcycle license, you'll need to get an endorsement for riding on two.

    I had a Suzuki Burgman 400 maxi-scooter, but it didn't fit me well. The best fit I found was on a V-Star 950 - much like the F3.
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    I know I wrote a little about your environment, but as far as YOUR 2 WHEELER ?

    I see no reason you can't go out there and get what you can afford and like for NOW.

    Every biker starts out with something besides the "bike of their dreams"

    I think that is just how it works. Like I couldn't get or handle a GL Honda, my first several years.

    I just tried to keep "moving up".
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    Cheap, light, and low on power. Look for something with an upright seating position with your legs under you and sitting upright. Avoid sport bikes you have to lean over and cruisers with forward controls. Dual sport bikes and adventure touring bikes are great to learn on. They are inexpensive, light weight, don't have a tendency to get you in trouble with power, and it isn't a big deal if you drop it. The VStrom, KLR, DL bikes are great.
    However, they are generally tall, so if your short it might be an issue.

    My son learned on a KLR. It's a fantastic all around bike and easy to learn on. But it is tall.

    Forget almost everything you know about riding in regards to Spyder experience. It's completely different.

    Take the 2 wheel safety course and spend a lot of time in a parking lot working on low speed. That is where most people have issues...That and going to fast into corners.

    Good luck and ride safe!

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    Default Try this....

    Sign up for a motorcyle riding course. They will supply you with a bike to learn on. This will give you a starting point. Most use smaller managable bikes. Once you get that out of the way rent some others and see if you really want to do this and at what level you want to invest. Good luck and hope you have fun with it...
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    Thumbs up For Sale

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    I had two BMW 1200LTs and my wife was not wanting to ride with me. I sold them and have had a 2011 and now a 2015 RT. Two weeks after I sold my BMWs, I realized that I wanted a two wheeler also. I bought a 2019 Suzuki 650 Vstrom and love it.
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    One of the more "Standard" bikes being sold today, are the Harley Street series.
    You can get either a 500, or a 750...
    And they're not priced stupidly high either!

    2015 HD Street 750.jpg
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    Ducati Panigale R

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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8er View Post
    I would suggest a Suzuki V-Strom 650. In my opinion there is no better all around bike as far as versatility and reliability go. And the best thing is, they are cheap and plentiful.
    I second the 650 V-Strom. A perfect "starter" bike for you. But don't let the word "starter" fool you. Many of my friends own this bike and swear by it as the best "do it all" bike they own.

    I think about another 2 wheeler just about every other day
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwlarry View Post
    . I bought a 2019 Suzuki 650 Vstrom and love it.

    How'd you buy a 2019 model year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycanuck View Post
    Ducati Panigale R

    Don't judge me
    YZR-M1 [emoji87]

    Oh, wait. It's only a 1000cc. That small motor won't fly around here! [emoji23]

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewNJ View Post
    YZR-M1 [emoji87]

    Oh, wait. It's only a 1000cc. That small motor won't fly around here! [emoji23]

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    get your 1000cc out of here,mine is 1198cc.......... still not 1330 though



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    Quote Originally Posted by HayRog View Post
    How'd you buy a 2019 model year?
    That's easy...

    deLorean.jpg.653x0_q80_crop-smart.jpg

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    Back to the leaners:

    http://marineturbine.com/motorcycles/

    This is one that probably should be avoided.

    (But if you can: make friends with somebody who has one!)
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