5th Generation Fighters

[PCBeachBum]

So thankful that these fighters are ours

http://player.vimeo.com/video/3437045?autoplay=1

[Chupaca]

Nice video...and I'm with you...glad they are ours..

[vided]

Now show isis and their comrades how
deadly these fighters are

[ARtraveler]

Glad they are ours.

[Jeriatric]

Fighters and aircraft in general, have come a long way since the days we were bending wrenches on the latest and greatest at Edwards AFB.

[Bob Denman]

When the Raptor was coming of age: the Eagle was still considered to be the "point of the spear"...

No more:

[JerryB]

Hi Jerbear,

Re: the latest and greatest at Edwards AFB.

I was stationed there from July '60 to Aug '61; good memories of that place.

What did you do there & when?

Jerry Baumchen

[Jeriatric]

Hi Jerbear,

Re: the latest and greatest at Edwards AFB.

I was stationed there from July '60 to Aug '61; good memories of that place.

What did you do there & when?

Jerry Baumchen

Hey Jerry

'67 & '68 - pneudraulics - on numerous test model AC

and from there, Nam.

And you?

[Saluda]

Wish there were no need for them. Can you imagine what is spent world wide on arms, weapons and munitions ?

[Bob Denman]

Wish there were no need for them. Can you imagine what is spent world wide on arms, weapons and munitions ?

Nobody ever wishes for War.
(Unless you're an evil General in a really bad movie. )
But you have to be prepared to defend what you believe in.

[Saluda]

Nobody ever wishes for War.
(Unless you're an evil General in a really bad movie. )
But you have to be prepared to defend what you believe in.

I know there is the way things are and the way you wish they could be. Can you imagine if all that money could go else where ?

[Bob Denman]

...and even he was killed on the street...

[PMK]

A recent discussion I was having with some avaition friends. There had been a lot of talk concerning the 22 and 35, plus the cancelling of the 22 program. Ironically, it was stated that an FA 22 airframe upgraded to the slightly more modern F35 electronics became and even more dominant aircraft. Superior to the F35 in almost every situation.

In modern times, these may be the aircraft we see, however, no smart country should show all its might. The FA22 is approaching 20 years old. The technology in electronics, airframe materials and construction, plus highly capable unmanned aircraft technolgy should make any fighter pilot fear current technology.

[Bob Denman]

Wasn't the 22 originally planned to be OUR fighter (No holds barred!! ), and the JSF was going to be the one that we sold to our Allies (ALMOST as good...)?

[PMK]

Wasn't the 22 originally planned to be OUR fighter (No holds barred!! ), and the JSF was going to be the one that we sold to our Allies (ALMOST as good...)?

Sort of. The FA22 test program, incredible aircraft, as the video shows, basically most other aircraft flown against it is bringing a knife to a gun fight.

The one aircraft I would worry about, maybe, is the Chinese cloned F22. I am sure the govt knows if that aircraft is capable or not, and who else may have it.

All the more reason to undesrtand Gen 6 is / should be active currently and Gen 7 is being developed.

This cutting edge technology waits for no one, and there is a reason the rest of us do not know.

115 years from first flight, took 40 years to get jets, another 20 for SR71, about 50 years since the 71 first flew.

Living in West Palm, I now routinely see AF 1 on approach. As for whatever is there watching, I can hear them well before, and during AF 1 based here. I may hear them, can't see them, they are fast and constantly running odd headings.

[Bob Denman]

Thanks!

[Bob Denman]

I found this comparison between the F22, and the Chinese J20:

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...who-wins-13813

[PMK]

I found this comparison between the F22, and the Chinese J20:

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...who-wins-13813

The key concern is how much classified info did they obtain. Also how much non classified "stuff" from the US manufacturers using Chinese factories and labor. Granted I have been told the quality was substandard, but the technology has been shared.

[Rogue Hawk]

Hi Jerbear,

Re: the latest and greatest at Edwards AFB.

I was stationed there from July '60 to Aug '61; good memories of that place.

What did you do there & when?

Jerry Baumchen

I watched F4's taking off when I was stationed at Kessler AFB in the 80's. That was a bad ass plane

[PMK]

The similar ideas explained where the J 20 is possibly designed to remove support for US aircraft, is also a reason to consider that N Korea has similar intentions via missles.

The public gets concerned regarding a possible missle hitting the continental USA. Consider if aerial support platforms were removed, air dominence suffers quickly. Tankers are not exactly made for manuevers or high speed getaways. While they may have some ability to hide, visually it is almost an elephant hiding behind a palm tree.

[Bob Denman]

Thank you!

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