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US Army's new handgun is...German
https://www.wired.com/2017/01/us-army-sig-sauer-p320/
I imagine some old time vets would find this ironic. That being said, in WW2 the German Luger was highly regarded and a prized possession.
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It'll end up as good as the last paper weight M9.
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German but made in USA.
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
...And before this one: the Italian Beretta!
I just prefer "Ole Slabsides" the best!
1911 A-1.jpg
They got away from the .45ACP for two reasons:
magazine capacity
Shootability
The gripe about the .45, was that it was tough to shoot accurately
It takes practice: nothing more!
They felt that a 9mm would give them more rounds in the magazine...
Why???
A handgun is never meant as an offensive weapon: they make rifles for that sort of fun!
A determined man who has been properly trained; is MORE than a match for a somewhat trained nimrod, with a lot of bullets to spray around without a plan...
With a .45, it's all about stopping power. One hit with a .45, and that target is going down. with a 9mm, most likely not. And the bunk about the .45 not being accurate is just that - pure bunk. I was able to qualify Expert with the .45 when I was in the service. Oh, and what did tunnel rats carry when they went hunting? Not a 9mm.
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My .45; I never leave home without it!
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I'm with you Bob. Besides, my 1911's are all Kimbers. Made in USA.
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The original sales pitch to the people was we will save billions of dollars standardizing on one pistol for all branches of service. We got the 9mm. Then the FBI wanted the 10mm. The special forces went back to the 45. Most of the other branches went to the 40. So now we have more diversified arms than we had before. Every branch has it's own preference. Different mags, ammo, holsters, and repair parts, plus logistics as far as deployment. Seems whenever the Gov. tries to fix something or save money, it never happens.
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
...And before this one: the Italian Beretta!
I just prefer "Ole Slabsides" the best!
1911 A-1.jpg
They got away from the .45ACP for two reasons:
magazine capacity
Shootability
The gripe about the .45, was that it was tough to shoot accurately
It takes practice: nothing more!
They felt that a 9mm would give them more rounds in the magazine...
Why???
A handgun is never meant as an offensive weapon: they make rifles for that sort of fun!
A determined man who has been properly trained; is MORE than a match for a somewhat trained nimrod, with a lot of bullets to spray around without a plan...
I understood they went to 9mm and dropped the .45s is because they were standardizing with NATO calibers.
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Hi Patti,
Re: they were standardizing with NATO calibers.
After World War II, there were many, many studies done about how soldiers react in combat, etc. One thing that they found was that Americans ( and vice-versa the Germans ) could not use the enemies' weapons because they would not take the same ammo. Once you used up the ammo in a German rifle you could not get ammo to reload it. This is why NATO eventually went to a single type of ammo.
Jerry Baumchen
PS) During WW II, if the guy next to you got killed, what emotional effect did you experience: Happiness; that it was not you.
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Originally Posted by rogerb
German but made in USA.
I think some BMW's are also made in the US.
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Originally Posted by Rogue Hawk
I think some BMW's are also made in the US.
I think that's in South Carolina. I used to have a Z3 made there - Bubba Motor Works!
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