So now that we have heard from the DOOM & GLOOM crowd ..... if anyone has made any purchases from any VENDOR other than BRP ..... according to the aforementioned folks ..... you all need to be shaking in your boots , that your WARRANTY is practically WORTHLESS ...... Boy that bunch has sure made me feel GREAT .... What's really interesting is the Doom & Gloom crowd very often recommends things from the LaMonster garage ...........sort of hypocritical to me ......... Lamont just keep doing what you are doing, I have no BS warranty fears ....................... rant over ....... Mike
Oh please... stick a sock in it....
Nothing will outright 'void your warranty' and no one has said that here. What we've said is that you do have bearing/sprocket, etc. related issues that BRP *could* decide not to cover that damage under warranty using the after-market hitch as an excuse. It's a valid concern especially considering some have had bearing and sprocket issues out here.. with and without hitches installed.
If Lamonster Garage, as good as his stuff is, sold a hitch I'd still learn towards the BRP one for the same reasons. This is also probably why he hasn't (and probably won't) release one... the liability would be too great.. if there was a failure things could be catastrophic.... not really the case with aftermarket headlights, pegs, etc....
The Bushtec is a great setup, but ugly as sin.
If someone is hooking to the swingarm, I think the best option is the BRP one. The others I've seen simply are not made as well and may put undo stress in the wrong area. BRP's swingarm hitch was a bit controversial when it came out as many of us felt hooking onto the swingarm was a bad idea. They've proven it can be done and work well.
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Spyder #2 - 2012 RT SM5. Traded in after 24,000 miles.
Spyder #3 - 2015 F3 SM6. Put 13,000 miles on and sold it.
Spyder #4 - 2017 F3 SM6. Too good of a deal to pass up!
Oh please... stick a sock in it....
Nothing will outright 'void your warranty' and no one has said that here. What we've said is that you do have bearing/sprocket, etc. related issues that BRP *could* decide not to cover that damage under warranty using the after-market hitch as an excuse. It's a valid concern especially considering some have had bearing and sprocket issues out here.. with and without hitches installed.
If Lamonster Garage, as good as his stuff is, sold a hitch I'd still learn towards the BRP one for the same reasons. This is also probably why he hasn't (and probably won't) release one... the liability would be too great.. if there was a failure things could be catastrophic.... not really the case with aftermarket headlights, pegs, etc....
The Bushtec is a great setup, but ugly as sin.
If someone is hooking to the swingarm, I think the best option is the BRP one. The others I've seen simply are not made as well and may put undo stress in the wrong area. BRP's swingarm hitch was a bit controversial when it came out as many of us felt hooking onto the swingarm was a bad idea. They've proven it can be done and work well.
Thank you I will after I finish typing this ....... I wrote my post because of my frustration with the very vocal group that espouses the Value and Necessity of going with BRP - PARTS & SERVICE ETC...... TO MAINTAIN WARRANTY ........ and when you look at THEIR LIST OF ..." FARKLES "... half or more are AFTERMARKET stuff which is not BRP - made or AUTHORIZED ........ I will now put that Sock in my mouth.....maybe you should join me. ...... Mike
I'm not part of the Gloom and Doom group and I won't get my pantys in a bunch like some members here do if you disagree with their expertise in all things related to Spyders, but after 4 RTs and 4 BRP hitches later and over 50,000 miles towing a trailer or I should say trailers. What I discovered is that if you do not have the BRP trailer and use the BRP wiring harness you will likely have trouble as the BRP modulator is trying to match up with the non BRP trailer. I have had to replace my BRP harness with a generic harness and have had no trouble with them after thousands of miles of towing. So I would suggest a mix of the two. Bend to Home 004.jpg
I bought the BRP hitch and wiring module for both my 2015 RTL and then again on my 2016 F3T. Why? Simple....it's BRP and if things go wrong it's their worries not mine. Plus, it fits correctly, easy to install, including the wire harness. Nuff said!
I do have at least one accessory from every sponsoring vendor of Spyderlovers. But, when it comes to an accessory that requires wiring if it's not plug and play I wont put it on my Spyder. I have no desire to try and re-engineer this great trike!
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If BRP can show the improvised wiring caused the failure, you are probably SOL.
Hey all,
As a general rule, BRP does not "void" warranties. If a warranty claim is made and the issue is shown to not be a manufacturer defect but instead is caused by an aftermarket item or improper installation, it is possible that that specific warranty claim might be denied; it does not
"void" the remainder of your warranty.
Thanks,
Steve
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Reason: grammar and clarity
It's nice to have BRP confirm what several of us have been saying for the past few years.
2014 Copper RTS
Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.
Hey all,
As a general rule, BRP does not "void" warranties. If a warranty claim is made and the issue is shown to not be a manufacturer defect but instead is caused by an aftermarket item or improper installation, it is possible that that specific warranty claim might be denied; it does not
"void" the remainder of your warranty.
Thanks,
Steve
I just got a Freedom Trailer for my '16 RTS SS, and went with the BRP hitch. If for nothing else, it'll give me peace of mind with any potential warranty issues. These machines are too expensive to take that risk, imho
I just got a Freedom Trailer for my '16 RTS SS, and went with the BRP hitch. If for nothing else, it'll give me peace of mind with any potential warranty issues. These machines are too expensive to take that risk, imho
Anyone no where (address) I send the mail in warranty ?
Hey all,
As a general rule, BRP does not "void" warranties. If a warranty claim is made and the issue is shown to not be a manufacturer defect but instead is caused by an aftermarket item or improper installation, it is possible that that specific warranty claim might be denied; it does not
"void" the remainder of your warranty.
Thanks,
Steve
Do u have the address I send the mail in warranty documents in to ?
So what I'm hearing is unless you tow a BRP trailer with your BRP hitch and plug and play wiring harness you will have issues. Is this correct
NO!!!!!!!!!
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2014 Copper RTS
Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.
........... So Jack is Super Clamp .....OEM ????? ....you seem to love that .... Mike
Super Clamp was made in CA NA DA. It is a slick method for securing the Spyder to your trailer. Not an OEM part for the Spyder if I read you right.
Jack
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So what I'm hearing is unless you tow a BRP trailer with your BRP hitch and plug and play wiring harness you will have issues. Is this correct
Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder
NO!!!!!!!!!
But what should be a consideration for anyone who plans of towing, is that an item designed for the bike by the builders of the bike... should probably have FEWER issues.
But what should be a consideration for anyone who plans of towing, is that an item designed for the bike by the builders of the bike... should probably have FEWER issues.
Naw, if one can do it better, then do it. Don't let people drag you down.If a trailer is isolated by relays for each trailer light function, no problem. Nanny has no idea there is a trailer on my RS-S! My trailers, yes two, are isolated by a Goldwing after market relay isolator. No problem on Goldwings in 200,000 miles and no problem on my RS-S in 32,000 miles. Entirely too much bull fodder on here for thread count. Early trailers were on GS/RS units. For the life of me, I don't know why BRP did not use a 5 wire trailer? Why have a 5 wire Spyder and a 4 wire trailer? If the trailer is 5 wire, then no converter is required. However with a computer controled cycle you must have electrical isolation to prevent arching into the computer.
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If I can't fix it, I will fix it so no one can fix it. Sypder Loco!
Hey all,
As a general rule, BRP does not "void" warranties. If a warranty claim is made and the issue is shown to not be a manufacturer defect but instead is caused by an aftermarket item or improper installation, it is possible that that specific warranty claim might be denied; it does not
"void" the remainder of your warranty.
Thanks,
Steve
Why did you use a 4 wire trailer on a 5 wire Spyder? Thanks in advance, Bill. W4eh@aol.com
If I can't fix it, I will fix it so no one can fix it. Sypder Loco!
But what should be a consideration for anyone who plans of towing, is that an item designed for the bike by the builders of the bike... should probably have FEWER issues.
Electricity is universal. It doesn't care what brand of vehicle it's flowing in! If the components that control its flow are designed properly then it makes no difference what vehicle they are in, or who made them. I think the early BRP modules were a proprietary design that didn't conform to normal trailer wiring systems and weren't electrically rugged enough. The newer module is a third party, Hopkins it has been said, standard module that is made to operate with anyone's properly configured trailer. Any reputable trailer will be wired properly. Based on problems reported here reputable does not include the little Harbor Freight trailers! All the lights need to have their ground leads connected to the ground wire in the connector plug. In fact I've never had a lick of problem with the lights on my trailer and they aren't connected to the trailer frame at all.
2014 Copper RTS
Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.