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Type I & Type 2 Diabetics:
Did you see this experiment?
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-39070183
It looks interesting; at least as "interesting", as it can be at this early stage!
Last edited by Bob Denman; 02-24-2017 at 06:13 PM.
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Wow...!!
That would be nice if it comes to be a solution to diabetes... and simple, non drug related....
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Hi Bob,
Re: they don't want to see it happen...
That's why gov't. funded research is really a good thing.
Jerry Baumchen
PS) I have three close friends that are life-long sufferers of diabetes; I hope this can improve the lives of a lot of folks out there.
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sounds strange, but you never know
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Bob D.,
When my was diagnosed with type 1 at 11 y.o., I spoke to the attending physician b/c he ended up in the hospital before being diagnosed. I asked a specific question about what I thought may have trigged it, and he said they don't know what the actually trigger is, and told me no to what I suggested. I'm still convinced that what I thought triggered did trigger it. I did quite a bit of reading on it when my son was diagnosed.
I hope there is some truth to the dieting; but, I'm very skeptical. Not everything has a carryover from mice to humans, regarding health, as I'm sure you know.
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
It's actually triggered by the immune system...
Basically; it decides that it doesn't like the pancreas, so it tries to kill it.
I was diagnosed with it in 1965... at age 8
I have type 2 and have been fighting to keep it under control. I now take apple cider vinegar (Braggs organic) three times a day. I tablespoon 1/2 hr before each meal. I now have control and going to reduce my insulin. Sugar has been 80 for the last 2 days and the highest it has been in 2 months is 124 and that was eating a bad meal. All I can say is the vinegar has help me control it better.
David
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I've also heard that cinnamon can help with Type 2 Diabetes...
It sounds like the vinegar is working for you: now get some boiled cabbage underneath it, and you've got yourself a meal!
I love cabbage with sausage and cornbread.
David
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I find it unfortunate that they named Diabetes a "type 1 and a type 2". They are very different disease states. Their cause is as different as "night' is to "day". The symptoms may be similar however their "remedy" and all of these prospective cures (including the Edmonton Protocol") work only on "Type 1" diabetics.
The big cure to Type 2 seems to lose weight.
When I was diagnosed at 45 years old with Type 1 diabetes I looked like a skeleton. Seriously ... I looked like a concentration camp survivor. My BG readings were off the scale. I weighed in at 125 lbs and I felt sick. Sick, sick, sick.
There seems to be some connection between Type 1 diabetes and Chicken Pox. And it seems to cluster in families (although it is not 'inherited" per se).
There is some reason for a Type 1 to have hope in that the Edmonton protocol where they plant (inject) donor islet cells into a persons liver. But the recipient still has to take anti rejection drugs forever however ...
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
It's actually triggered by the immune system...
Basically; it decides that it doesn't like the pancreas, so it tries to kill it.
I was diagnosed with it in 1965... at age 8
"In type 1 diabetes, it is the beta cells in the pancreas which produce insulin that are wrongfully targeted and killed off by specific antibodies created by the body’s immune system.Researchers have been investigating what may cause the immune system to act in this way but to date researchers have theories but no concrete proof."
This is copied from a website, and not my words. I'll just say in my son's case, I believe it was a virus that caused the triggering, and since I don't believe in coincidence, I have an idea of what caused the virus.
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I was simplifying my answer... But you're right: it sure could have been a virus!
It doesn't even matter which one!
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Type 2 diabetic here. When I was diagnosed I was, and still am, a gym rat who ate clean. Eat even cleaner now.
Sometimes getting Type 2 is genetic (thanks Mom...), or the pancreas wears down due to differing situations.
I tried different pills and nothing worked for me, so use diet and exercise to control my blood glucose.
The article was interesting in the fact that they had the test subjects eat low carb, low protein and high fat. It's interesting that I eat low carb, high fiber, protein and fat, and keep my A1C around 5.3. Crazy, eh?
I don't go on Len's Pie Run. A half a piece of pie and my glucose would shoot up over 300, then I'd feel like crap for 24 hours. Totally not worth it...
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Edit... I too believe that viruses can cause auto-immune responses. All it takes is for it to get to the thymus, and a new story of your life opens...
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This was just announced today:
http://www.wcvb.com/article/common-v...-says/21742629
Let's see if they can figure out a way to make it work for ALL of us!
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Excellent thread.
Thank you all
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