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    Hello everyone and Happy New Year! My Wife surprised me with a Black 2016 RT Limited for Christmas and I am looking for some guidance. I have only been able to sneak in a couple of rides due to the crappy weather we have been having here in PA but so far each ride has added more grey to the top of my head. While riding, the front tires are making a squealing noise when traveling at speeds over 20 MPH and it feels like the Spyder is trying to go everywhere but straight. I have increased the air pressure to 20 front / 30 rear and relaxed my grip as suggested which has made the handling better and lessened the amount of tire squealing but its still concerning. Is this a possible mechanical problem or just me being green and needing to log some miles? Any and all comments are greatly appreciated.

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    and on your new purchase. Most of your questions will probably be answered in the "Do's and Dont's" thread; click on the link... http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...-Spyder-owners
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    If your all new to the spyder and more so to any kind of motorcycle it will take you 300 miles or more to get comfortable. Your on the newest and most advanced so I would not suspect any problems. If the weather has been bad it makes it tough..but welcome to the spyder world and this most amazing site. Folks here will getc you feeling like a pro in no time.. congrats on such a fine wife great choice in rydes..on
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    on having such a GREAT Wife!
    Do you have any ATV or snowmobiling experience? The Spyder actually handles much more like they do, than any two-wheeled motorcycle.
    There's a learning curve, that lasts for a couple of hundred miles. (Your mileage may vary...)
    Take short, low-speed rides...
    Keep a relaxed grip on the bars...
    RELAX: you're supposed to be having fun!

    As far as getting gray hair over it: I should be so lucky!



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    I second (or third) all of the advice about it taking 300 miles to adapt to a Spyder, but I'm concerned about the squealing you hear. If it sounds like it shouldn't be there it sounds like a trip to the dealer.

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    Squealing tires is a new one. I think I would have that checked. If you can find a big vacant parking lot get out there and rune som figure 8s and get comfortable. You will notice that the steering becomes a push/pull type of maneuver, push with the outside hand pull with the inside hand, always with a relaxed grip. Take the short rydes on less traveled roads when weather permits and you will start to feel like the bike is driving itself, that's when you know that you are giving the right amount of input. They do almost drive themselves!
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    Default +1 on the running around a big empty parking lot..

    Gives you a chance to relax and do some slow speed maneuvers and just relax without worrying about traffic. My wife and I used to run around a parking lot in the nearby state park at the swim beach. Should be empty this time of year

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverHillAndDale View Post
    I second (or third) all of the advice about it taking 300 miles to adapt to a Spyder, but I'm concerned about the squealing you hear. If it sounds like it shouldn't be there it sounds like a trip to the dealer.

    So this wife of yours BOUGHT YOU A SPYDER!! WOW, she's a keeper!
    It could even just be the belt, as it engages the cogs on the sprockets...
    A tiny dab or two of grease will quiet it down.

    (If the front tires ARE squealing: I'd almost want to take a look at the wheel bearings...)
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    Congrats on your new bike. As for the "squeal" - never heard of that one. Maybe alignment is way off. Our dealer here does a laser alignment on all new bikes. They say some are way off from the factory. I came from two wheels and the first ride was scary as hell. Now I am on my second spyder and love it. The key is to relax. The grip I recommend is with fingers extended (Do not grip the grip). I have come accustomed to "pushing" to turn. It prevents me from gripping and pulling to turn. the spyder is very touchy and if you are always gripping, the bike will feel it is darting all over the road. Give yourself a few hundred miles to get the hang of it! You will learn to love it. I also grew up about 25 miles North of Pittsburgh, PA.
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    Take time to learn the Spyder riding technique. Read the Do's and Do Not's.
    Took me 500 miles to relax and 1000 miles to get comfortable.
    A laser alignment will help the twitchy steering.
    My brakes sqeak in wet or humid conditions. Not a big concern.
    Where are you in PA.
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    Thanks everyone for the great advice. I am located in the York, PA area by the way. I have gone through the Do's and Dont's and have picked up a lot of tips but what concerned me the most was the front tire squeal. After upping the air pressure the squeal has practically gone away but it's something I had never experienced in all of my years of riding. I am planning to get a laser alignment and have the Spyder PA inspected as soon as the weather clears. Can anyone recommend a dealership here in the York area. My wife ordered and had the bike shipped from iMotorsports so I have not had an opportunity to visit any of the local shops yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCMJ View Post
    Hello everyone and Happy New Year! My Wife surprised me with a Black 2016 RT Limited for Christmas and I am looking for some guidance. I have only been able to sneak in a couple of rides due to the crappy weather we have been having here in PA but so far each ride has added more grey to the top of my head. While riding, the front tires are making a squealing noise when traveling at speeds over 20 MPH and it feels like the Spyder is trying to go everywhere but straight. I have increased the air pressure to 20 front / 30 rear and relaxed my grip as suggested which has made the handling better and lessened the amount of tire squealing but its still concerning. Is this a possible mechanical problem or just me being green and needing to log some miles? Any and all comments are greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
    I also am a newbie with under 3000 miles. My Spyder needed much in they way of alignment and front tire replacement. In spite of that there was no tire squeal. Is it possible that your foot is resting on the break pedal while you are on the gas. That will cause a squeal.

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    on the new ryde! All good advice! Take you time and relax your grip some. It will help.Also, on corners, lock your outer elbow. This will give you better control.

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    on your spyder andto the spyder web. All haven given advise. The more you ride, the more comfortable you'll become. It took me about 300 miles to get used to my first spyder. Dale
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    Default Long shot on the noise

    There are some good ideas above but here is a long shot.

    The brakes on the Spyders often whine at us because of all the brake dust.

    New Ryders will often for whatever reason seem to ride the brake pedal, this is a terrible habit but it happens.

    Double check yourself to insure that you are off the brake pedal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCMJ View Post
    Hello everyone and Happy New Year! My Wife surprised me with a Black 2016 RT Limited for Christmas and I am looking for some guidance. I have only been able to sneak in a couple of rides due to the crappy weather we have been having here in PA but so far each ride has added more grey to the top of my head. While riding, the front tires are making a squealing noise when traveling at speeds over 20 MPH and it feels like the Spyder is trying to go everywhere but straight. I have increased the air pressure to 20 front / 30 rear and relaxed my grip as suggested which has made the handling better and lessened the amount of tire squealing but its still concerning. Is this a possible mechanical problem or just me being green and needing to log some miles? Any and all comments are greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
    Sounds to me like you have a front alignment problem. I would take it back nd ask them to check it. no way the tired should squeal over 20 an the steering be dirty like that

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    After reading the comments I broke out the measuring tape and took a closer look at the front alignment. It appears my right front is 3/4" Toe out. I made an adjustment to the tie rod and got it as close as possible with a crude alignment setup. As soon as the temps climb above freezing I will test and see if this resolves the squealing tire issue and get to a dealer for a proper laser alignment. Hard to believe this got past BRP and the dealer before delivery. Thanks again everyone.

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    Good luck!
    But rather than "eyeball" these important adjustments: your efforts might be best served by having the bike laser-aligned at the earliest convenient time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverHillAndDale View Post
    I second (or third) all of the advice about it taking 300 miles to adapt to a Spyder, but I'm concerned about the squealing you hear. If it sounds like it shouldn't be there it sounds like a trip to the dealer.

    So this wife of yours BOUGHT YOU A SPYDER!! WOW, she's a keeper!

    Looks like a "potato state" plate. We live in Wilder, and ride the 2012 Spyder RT-SE5. Should you get the inclination to go for a ride, when the weather improves, please let us know. I can also be reached at tnessman@gmail.com.
    Looks like you've added to your RT pretty well. Which begs the question, what's next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCMJ View Post
    Thanks everyone for the great advice. I am located in the York, PA area by the way. I have gone through the Do's and Dont's and have picked up a lot of tips but what concerned me the most was the front tire squeal. After upping the air pressure the squeal has practically gone away but it's something I had never experienced in all of my years of riding. I am planning to get a laser alignment and have the Spyder PA inspected as soon as the weather clears. Can anyone recommend a dealership here in the York area. My wife ordered and had the bike shipped from iMotorsports so I have not had an opportunity to visit any of the local shops yet.

    Welcome and you are right the weather did get crappy here in Pa.There is a big dealer in Hanover,Pa http://motosportsinc.com/

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    Congrats on the new Spyder!! You're gonna LOVE it!!

    When you get a chance, strongly consider getting a BajaRon Sway Bar installed. We had our RT for almost two seasons, got a sway bar end of last summer and could not believe the difference in handling and ride for both driver and passenger!! Best money we've put into our Spyder so far.
    We had it installed by Netzley Tire in Accord, NY. Also had them do a laser alignment. Its a 3 hour drive from us but well worth the trip! Highly recommend them!! Great people, great work.

    Spring will be here in a few months!! Have fun!!
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    If you found an alignment problem Bob is right. Here's a link to the Rolo alignment system dealers in PA.
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    I have the BajaRon Swaybar and Fox Shocks in the garage ready to install. I already installed the Comfort Seat and Lamonster NBV Highway Brackets but I did not want to introduce another variable to the suspension until I determined what was happening with the handling.

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    and on your . The thread about do's and don'ts will cover about all the issues you have mentioned along with additional comments to get past the "what did I do" items that you mentioned. Most refer to these situations as the "learning curve." The does not drive like a motorcycle and many of those things applied to the will make the machine seem to have a mind of its own. Fear, to tight a grip, etc, will bring out the "worst" in a . Most of your "issues" will go away--but--poor set up can also cause some of the issue--lets not go there for now. It took me 1,500 miles before I was comfortable--but I was a two wheeled die hard with many ingrown habits.

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