DAMN! Ann, can't believe all the trouble you are going through. And you haven't gone "Postal", yet. LOL Hang in there. Hopefully, it sounds like you made it to a good dealer. :pray: Tom :spyder:
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DAMN! Ann, can't believe all the trouble you are going through. And you haven't gone "Postal", yet. LOL Hang in there. Hopefully, it sounds like you made it to a good dealer. :pray: Tom :spyder:
Not yet, Tom .... though if I had to stick with the other dealer, I am sure I would have by now! I really didn't want to take it back to them for the 4th CB replacement .... but, I was not yet in contact with the regional rep from BRP. Once he got involved, it became pretty clear to both of us that I no longer trusted the old dealer and they wanted to wash their hands of the bike as well (so, they were done with me). I am usually pretty easy to get along with ... but I draw the line at being nice when accused of damaging my own Spyder by unhooking a ground strap (good thing it was on the phone, or I would probably have been in jail :p).
CB arrived at the dealer yesterday and I am scheduled to take it in on the 26th .. have a Vietnam Replica Wall escort on the 25th and they could not guarantee getting it back to me if I took it in sooner. Oh, and now I am facing shoulder surgery .... so they will have to work around that too (as in get it done before the surgery) -- I will start another thread on that.
All the best .... Ann
Good luck with the surgery Ann. Hopefully all goes well. The bike? Keeping my fingers crossed for you. :thumbup: Tom :spyder:
UPDATE: The CB is ..... WORKING!:clap: We now have about 400 miles since the latest replacement (number 5, by my count); both transmit and receive are nearly flawless. Did have a slight scare about 200 miles in when severe static started to show up ... at a jacket change stop midway through our ride, I put my gloved hand on the antenna and gave it a firm twist to tighten. Did not feel any movement, but there must have been some as the static went away and has stayed away. So, this will now become part of my pre ride checks.
Even better ... no shoulder surgery, so I am not going to lose out on any riding this season.:doorag:
Will probably call BRP in the next day or so with the good news ... hopefully, this lasts.
All the best .... Ann
No offense intended here but...............
You do know that some bouts of "static" are from external sources ....right ??
Some power lines running down the highway are REALLY bad.
And some things running in businesses are bad too.....like air compressors and big fluorescent lights.
That kind of static comes and goes on it's own.
No offense taken .... we were out in open country and the static did subside when we slowed down or stopped; then picked up again with movement and got worse the faster we went (seemed to indicate a possible problem with a "loose" antenna).
All the best .... Ann
First mistake CB is expensive out dated comm system in todays world of moto. Helmet comm systems are only way to go... I know it's a new paradigm but get with it. European riders have used it for years and it has finally come of age with powerful new bluetooth 5.X the new standard. Latest BT 4.X Cardo & Sena helmet comm has paved the way and it will be USA de facto comm system in couple years. I'm sure your regular riding buddies wouldn't mind the switch for less than $400. With it comes the perfect Helmet intercom for pillion and lots more features like music, cell phones, GPS voice commands etc.
Since you seem to have documented all the issues along the wayI suggest next step is to take advantage of the lemon laws asap. I purchased a new 2012 BMW KT 1600 GTL that spent too more time in dealership shop rather than my garage and riding it. At 2,500 miles and end of 2012 year models BMW replaced it with a free brand new 2013 KT 1600 GTL... new moto was BMW quality all the way. This is the way it should be and reason for strong lemon laws.
So what if CB is old technology … the group I ride with uses it extensively and trying to get more than just a few on the "same page" for communication technology is no easy task. This post was not meant to be a debate over the merits of the CB vs. newer technology … just to report that horror of working with a particular dealer and how they continually damaged the Spyder.
Lemon laws do not apply to "accessories" in the state of Texas; only to the main / required vehicle components. The CB is an optional accessory and not a required part of the machine. Plus, the bike itself is golden … just the CB (and my prior dealer) has been a nightmare.
BTW … complaining to BRP and taking advantage of surveys, when they are sent … matters. The dealer referenced in the original post has lost their Platinum Certification (and I would like to think I played a small part in that).
Thank you for your response ….. all the best …. Ann
Ahhhhhh, newer is always better, right? Well let's see. Say you are in a group ride of 5 riders. Small group, right? You're all traveling down the road at 60 mph. That's 88 feet per second. With 5 riders you have 4 spaces between the bikes. Keeping the recommended minimum distance of 2 seconds between riders that means there is 2 x 88 x 4, or 704 feet from the leader to the tail gunner. Now, they do need to keep in communication for safe riding, right? Well, I guess BT 5.0 with is touted 800 ft range would work, but that means all 5 riders need to stay in tight prescribed formation. You ever seen that happen? What if a couple of them stretch out to 3 seconds apart? That adds 176 feet. Add a sixth rider to the group with two spaced at 3 seconds and now you're up to 1056 feet from lead to tail. Oops, there's a hill ahead. Get ready for BT signal dropout, if you even can connected int he first place!
Let's see, a poor CB signal should reach at least a half mile and more likely a mile. Just think how many more riders you can add to the group and still the lead and tail can communicate. And every one in between can hear them without contending with the hassles and limitations of getting all the BT devices to pair!!
Yes Bruiser, BT is great technology, and there is no question in many communication situations it is the best. But sometimes old technology can still trump the new stuff. Your unequivocal put down of CB radios is not warranted, but there are cases where it should be superseded by the new. On the other hand, there are cases where it is the best.
A word of advice. Keep up with the new, but jettison the old very carefully!!