Everybody likes to point fingers at everyone else; but I absolutely trust my source... :thumbup:
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So what is the DESS error basically ?......a communication issue between the key and the computer ? Just curious.
Thanks and I hope those with the issue get it fixed. :thumbup:
As I understand it; the DESS is BRP's antitheft system for their products.
When you fire up the ignition: this system emits a signal that will try to read the code contained in your chipped ignition key.
If it gets the wrong signal: it shuts things down! :thumbup:
Which is a GOOD thing for you, if your bike is being toyed-with by a miscreant... :D
NOT a good thing; if it's you, and your keys! :yikes:
This week I should be getting an email from my dealer saying What BRP wants to do next. I will keep everyone updated on what happens. Stay Tuned! Deanna
Have you been able to ride this weekend at all :dontknow:? The weather is gorgeous! (87 degrees down here!)
Glad I got a 13!
Besides the saving for getting my 2013 late as May 2014, thankfully I have not had these problems glad to see everyone deal well with it & BRP should get a grip on keeping us happy. We are good customers & there has been entirely too many problems from heat to tires & this for a weaker customer base to tolerate.
As I mentioned in http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...75#post1017075 the D.E.S.S. module either bad or good cannot be diagnostically tested so the only recourse is to replace with another module and keep fingers crossed hoping the latter will not fail which apparently has happened in some cases. OTOH one would think whoever is manufacturing the modules for BRP should have a go/no-go test to determine if the unit is satisfactory IMO.
To date I have received only two responses to my request for information from owners of failed and replaced modules to send information to BRPcare. Without documentation of numbers of failures and replacements, both single and multiple cases, any correspondence to BRPcare is IMO just whining. I consider it presumptuous of me to report your problems to BRP without your consent. YMMV.
I too had the key code problem while on vacation last week. Had to keep trying but each time it finally started. Also had Module replaced once. Now dealer is ordering me another.
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Are you related to Joe Walsh?? :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=il1Byvn_vMA
So for the people that are having a problem again with a replaced module: are you positive the dealer installed the new part number? The invoice may have the new part number but unless you can see a part number on the module I wonder if it's really the new one.
According to the ST service manual, there are three parts to this: the ignition switch, of course, the DESS module (mounted above the battery on the back wall of the frunk) and a ring antenna that looks like it's at the base of the ignition switch. Maybe the antenna is a problem too?
Just for the heck of it I looked up the module on cheapcycleparts. $132 and if you enter the old part number (710003595) the search results show it crossed out and replaced with the new one (710004190.)
The antenna? :shocked: Perhaps it's just not getting set back exactly where it needs to be? :dontknow: This is NOT a 50,000 watt radio station; placement could be critical.
Just curious...where typically is the DESS module located ? On an ST-L ? Other mdls. ?
Thanks !:thumbup: