1st Complaint about BajaRons New Anti-Sway-Bar

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02-08-2013, 06:38 AM
CyncySpyder

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1st Complaint about BajaRons New Anti-Sway-Bar

I posted about this in Teddy's New Adventures Thread, but thought it important enough to post it here for the general Spyder Loving public that may not follow along with Teddy's Blog :thumbup:

Ok folks, yesterday it got above freezing, I think 34F to be exact, and it wasn't raining or snowing, so you know what that means........... TIME TO RYDE!!!

I went out to the garage & fired Teds Red Sled right up, plugged in Teddy's heated carrier, turned the Spyder around and pulled back in the garage head first, as opposed to our normally backing it in. This way, I could leave the Spyder running with the garage door cracked & the exhaust venting out instead of in, and give Teds heated carrier time to get warmed up while I went back inside to get Mr. Wonderful all geared up for a nice ryde.

Teddy could hear the Spyder running and was excited like a kid at Christmas time when I opened the door, jumping like a kangaroo raring to go. Got him geared up in one of his winter outfits and out to the garage we went, with Teddy leading the way.

Get him tethered into his heated carrier and put his doggles on, and off we went. I knew this had to be kind of a short ryde, as my buddy asked if I'd get his daughter off the bus, which we're always happy to do, but that only left us with about an hour to ryde, but better than nothing.

I decided to take the twisties up the hill to Devou Park, which is directly above where we live, as we're at the bottom by the river & the park is up top with Wonderful Panaramic views of the Cincinnati Skyline & Riverfront. Anyone that knows the area knows that it has one of the twistiest roads around leading up to it, which is always fun on a Spyder.

Now I have to tell you, about this new Anti-Sway-Bar from BaJaRon, I found my first complaint. Now granted, its most probably exaggerated for me personally, due to being used to ryding every single day, and now not ryding but maybe once or twice a week on "test" runs, but WOW!!! I'm coming to find that I need to actually change my ryding style.

I remember when Teddy & I were following directly behind Lamont on our ryde of The Dragon this past summer, and I was working my butt off leaning my body weight from side to side in every twist & turn trying my best to keep up with him. One time, I looked up ahead at him taking the next corner & I remember being amazed that THE MAN was sitting almost straight up with very little noticeable lean, at least from my vantage point. I knew he had the Best aftermarket suspension available, not to mention 30+ yrs of experience, but still, at the speeds we were taking these corners, I thought for sure he'd still have to be leaning more than I was at least witnessing.

You know how when we see someone else doing the same thing you are, but maybe a different or better way, and our natural inclination is to mirror their style to see if we too can do that particular activity better than what we had been doing? So yeah, I made sure their were no oncomming vehicles and I tried taking that very same corner without leaning as much as I normally would have and can you guess what happened??? Yup, I crossed over the center line about a foot & scared the cr*p out of myself, swearing to never do that again...... Lesson learned.

So, ever since then, I've just given in to the fact that, since I carry most of my weight in my upper torso, Teds Red Sled is TOP HEAVY & I have to do the side to side slide dance in the seat when aggressively taking on the twisties, which I'm fine with and have fun with it.

So now imagine my surprise, when I go to do my side to side slide dance in the twisties, but Teds Red Sled is now as flat & stable as can be, and I'm just hanging my but needlessly off the side of the seat feeling like an overcompensating fool that doesn't know how to ryde his (Teddy's) Spyder, even tho we're now on our 3rd year of ryding experience with well over 50 thousand miles. Go Figure!!!

Told ya folks, the difference this bar makes is like having an entirely different beast between your legs. Best BANG for the BUCK you can get!!!

:firstplace:Thank YOU Ron for an AWESOME Product :bowdown:

(PS.... This really isn't a complaint)
(PSS... Dragon anyone???)

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...8&d=1360323167
This is a pic showing our old stock Sway-Bar still in place right before the change

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...9&d=1360323172
This pic shows the New & Improved 'Beefier" Sway-Bar from BajaRon

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/06/ebuhavez.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/06/ejahe8av.jpg
:firstplace:Teddy Tested & Teddy Approved :firstplace:
02-08-2013, 07:10 AM
ulflyer

LOL! Enjoyed the writeup this early NC morn and have one question: what does the bars do comfortwise on non-twisty roads?
02-08-2013, 07:31 AM
Bob Denman

:thumbup: Somehow, I just knew that the complaint...wasn't! :roflblack:
02-08-2013, 07:58 AM
Captain Fin

What complaint

Now you are going to get Ron's attention.
02-08-2013, 08:49 AM
CyncySpyder

From my understanding .....................

Quote:

Originally Posted by ulflyer

LOL! Enjoyed the writeup this early NC morn and have one question: what does the bars do comfortwise on non-twisty roads?

Not a dang thing besides sit there. The rest of your suspension components take care of your comfort, the Anti-Sway-Bar helps to keep the Spyder flat and stable when torsion is inflicted upon it, like from a swerve, turn or banking motion. But we could even notice a difference when making lane changes on the highway, no more action then reaction, its now like the Spyder is one complete machine and seems as if everything happens in unison.

I'm no suspension expert & these are just my unprofessional observations, but I'm sure some of the experts will chime in & correct anything I have wrong & better explain it :bowdown:
02-08-2013, 02:27 PM
ARtraveler

Teddy sure looks like he is having a great time. Glad the sway bar is working for you. :thumbup:
02-08-2013, 03:21 PM
Chupaca

I have a real complaint..!!

The sticker on the bar i received was off center...does that count as a complaint..?:roflblack:
02-08-2013, 03:25 PM
Bob Denman

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I wonder if Ron's "Customer Service & Complaints" Department is at all like ours?
02-08-2013, 03:31 PM
juliantrost

Mine came yesterday. Ordered it Monday, so already impressed with the service :yes: Now, I just need my ATV Jack to come from Harbor Freight and the weather to get a bit warmer and I am all set for the installs of the bar and few other things.
02-08-2013, 03:46 PM
ulflyer

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyncySpyder

Not a dang thing besides sit there. The rest of your suspension components take care of your comfort, the Anti-Sway-Bar helps to keep the Spyder flat and stable when torsion is inflicted upon it, like from a swerve, turn or banking motion. But we could even notice a difference when making lane changes on the highway, no more action then reaction, its now like the Spyder is one complete machine and seems as if everything happens in unison.

I'm no suspension expert & these are just my unprofessional observations, but I'm sure some of the experts will chime in & correct anything I have wrong & better explain it :bowdown:

Thanks for the reply; its what I wanted to hear since i"m happy now with the existing ride. I'm planning on installing Lens new shock relocators as soon as I can get a pair which will likely require some adjustments of the Elka's, but that shouldn't have any effect on installing a set of Rons torsion bars. Am thinking I should do the torsion bars first.
Look out Ron, another order on the way.
02-08-2013, 10:20 PM
ThreeWheels

So you have to strip that much plastic off, including the frunk, in order to change out the sway bars ?
02-08-2013, 11:38 PM
BajaRon

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThreeWheels

So you have to strip that much plastic off, including the frunk, in order to change out the sway bars ?

You do not have to remove the Frunk. On the RS, Frunk removal isn't all that difficult and some choose to go that route.

It is a different story on the RT. Since it is not necessary the install is done while leaving the Frunk in place on the RT.
02-09-2013, 01:54 AM
Tin Man

Installed mine today, but we are in the middle of a Blizzard. I already have 28" of snow so i will have to wait a few days to try it. I hope i have the same results as a many on this forum have posted.:yes:
02-09-2013, 02:30 AM
Savant70648

1st Complaint about BajaRons New Anti-Sway-Bar

What's the cost of the bars?
02-09-2013, 07:44 AM
BeachSpyder

1st Complaint about BajaRons New Anti-Sway-Bar

I think they are $160 if memory serves. And my dealer installed it on my RT in 1/2 hour, as I am not mechanically inclined....
02-09-2013, 08:07 AM
NitroCircus Spyder

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyncySpyder

I posted about this in Teddy's New Adventures Thread, but thought it important enough to post it here for the general Spyder Loving public that may not follow along with Teddy's Blog :thumbup:

Ok folks, yesterday it got above freezing, I think 34F to be exact, and it wasn't raining or snowing, so you know what that means........... TIME TO RYDE!!!

I went out to the garage & fired Teds Red Sled right up, plugged in Teddy's heated carrier, turned the Spyder around and pulled back in the garage head first, as opposed to our normally backing it in. This way, I could leave the Spyder running with the garage door cracked & the exhaust venting out instead of in, and give Teds heated carrier time to get warmed up while I went back inside to get Mr. Wonderful all geared up for a nice ryde.

Teddy could hear the Spyder running and was excited like a kid at Christmas time when I opened the door, jumping like a kangaroo raring to go. Got him geared up in one of his winter outfits and out to the garage we went, with Teddy leading the way.

Get him tethered into his heated carrier and put his doggles on, and off we went. I knew this had to be kind of a short ryde, as my buddy asked if I'd get his daughter off the bus, which we're always happy to do, but that only left us with about an hour to ryde, but better than nothing.

I decided to take the twisties up the hill to Devou Park, which is directly above where we live, as we're at the bottom by the river & the park is up top with Wonderful Panaramic views of the Cincinnati Skyline & Riverfront. Anyone that knows the area knows that it has one of the twistiest roads around leading up to it, which is always fun on a Spyder.

Now I have to tell you, about this new Anti-Sway-Bar from BaJaRon, I found my first complaint. Now granted, its most probably exaggerated for me personally, due to being used to ryding every single day, and now not ryding but maybe once or twice a week on "test" runs, but WOW!!! I'm coming to find that I need to actually change my ryding style.

I remember when Teddy & I were following directly behind Lamont on our ryde of The Dragon this past summer, and I was working my butt off leaning my body weight from side to side in every twist & turn trying my best to keep up with him. One time, I looked up ahead at him taking the next corner & I remember being amazed that THE MAN was sitting almost straight up with very little noticeable lean, at least from my vantage point. I knew he had the Best aftermarket suspension available, not to mention 30+ yrs of experience, but still, at the speeds we were taking these corners, I thought for sure he'd still have to be leaning more than I was at least witnessing.

You know how when we see someone else doing the same thing you are, but maybe a different or better way, and our natural inclination is to mirror their style to see if we too can do that particular activity better than what we had been doing? So yeah, I made sure their were no oncomming vehicles and I tried taking that very same corner without leaning as much as I normally would have and can you guess what happened??? Yup, I crossed over the center line about a foot & scared the cr*p out of myself, swearing to never do that again...... Lesson learned.

So, ever since then, I've just given in to the fact that, since I carry most of my weight in my upper torso, Teds Red Sled is TOP HEAVY & I have to do the side to side slide dance in the seat when aggressively taking on the twisties, which I'm fine with and have fun with it.

So now imagine my surprise, when I go to do my side to side slide dance in the twisties, but Teds Red Sled is now as flat & stable as can be, and I'm just hanging my but needlessly off the side of the seat feeling like an overcompensating fool that doesn't know how to ryde his (Teddy's) Spyder, even tho we're now on our 3rd year of ryding experience with well over 50 thousand miles. Go Figure!!!

Told ya folks, the difference this bar makes is like having an entirely different beast between your legs. Best BANG for the BUCK you can get!!!

:firstplace:Thank YOU Ron for an AWESOME Product :bowdown:

(PS.... This really isn't a complaint)
(PSS... Dragon anyone???)

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...8&d=1360323167
This is a pic showing our old stock Sway-Bar still in place right before the change

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...9&d=1360323172
This pic shows the New & Improved 'Beefier" Sway-Bar from BajaRon

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/06/ebuhavez.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/06/ejahe8av.jpg
:firstplace:Teddy Tested & Teddy Approved :firstplace:

Hi Dave and Teddy,

Thanks for the update on Ron's Swaybar. I don't have one yet, but will be getting one. Teddy sure is a rock star sporting that red mohawk! LOVE IT! I cannot wait to see the two of you again. :ohyea: :firstplace: :D
02-09-2013, 08:13 AM
NitroCircus Spyder

Quote:

Originally Posted by BajaRon

You do not have to remove the Frunk. On the RS, Frunk removal isn't all that difficult and some choose to go that route.

It is a different story on the RT. Since it is not necessary the install is done while leaving the Frunk in place on the RT.

Hi Ron,

That is great news that the trunk does not have to come off! My next question is if you have the bumpskid will there be a problem with that? :D
02-09-2013, 08:57 AM
eddieshep999

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitroCircus Spyder

Hi Ron,

That is great news that the trunk does not have to come off! My next question is if you have the bumpskid will there be a problem with that? :D

I think most if not all that have the Bumpskid installed do remove it - It gives more room to get to the bolts
and with the RT you have to lfit the Front Trunk out about 2-3 inches and the Bumpskid adds extra weight
so its best to remove it - Its only a question of undoing the bolts and removing it - Once the Swaybar has been fitted
just line up a couple of bolts of the Bumpskid and once a couple are holding it on just put in the rest of the bolts

Someone may have managed to have done the changeover with the Bumpskid in place and will give feedback on that
method

Best of luck with the changeover - Like all of us that have been there - It's well worth it
02-09-2013, 10:33 AM
Spyder lady 66

2013 ST LIMITED

I have a couple questions about the sway bar and bumpskid, have they made them for the 2013 ST LIMITED yet? I go to Bandera Rally every year and ride the hill country which has a bunch of turns and hills and am wandering if the swaybar would help? Thanks in advance for any input ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyncySpyder

I posted about this in Teddy's New Adventures Thread, but thought it important enough to post it here for the general Spyder Loving public that may not follow along with Teddy's Blog :thumbup:

Ok folks, yesterday it got above freezing, I think 34F to be exact, and it wasn't raining or snowing, so you know what that means........... TIME TO RYDE!!!

I went out to the garage & fired Teds Red Sled right up, plugged in Teddy's heated carrier, turned the Spyder around and pulled back in the garage head first, as opposed to our normally backing it in. This way, I could leave the Spyder running with the garage door cracked & the exhaust venting out instead of in, and give Teds heated carrier time to get warmed up while I went back inside to get Mr. Wonderful all geared up for a nice ryde.

Teddy could hear the Spyder running and was excited like a kid at Christmas time when I opened the door, jumping like a kangaroo raring to go. Got him geared up in one of his winter outfits and out to the garage we went, with Teddy leading the way.

Get him tethered into his heated carrier and put his doggles on, and off we went. I knew this had to be kind of a short ryde, as my buddy asked if I'd get his daughter off the bus, which we're always happy to do, but that only left us with about an hour to ryde, but better than nothing.

I decided to take the twisties up the hill to Devou Park, which is directly above where we live, as we're at the bottom by the river & the park is up top with Wonderful Panaramic views of the Cincinnati Skyline & Riverfront. Anyone that knows the area knows that it has one of the twistiest roads around leading up to it, which is always fun on a Spyder.

Now I have to tell you, about this new Anti-Sway-Bar from BaJaRon, I found my first complaint. Now granted, its most probably exaggerated for me personally, due to being used to ryding every single day, and now not ryding but maybe once or twice a week on "test" runs, but WOW!!! I'm coming to find that I need to actually change my ryding style.

I remember when Teddy & I were following directly behind Lamont on our ryde of The Dragon this past summer, and I was working my butt off leaning my body weight from side to side in every twist & turn trying my best to keep up with him. One time, I looked up ahead at him taking the next corner & I remember being amazed that THE MAN was sitting almost straight up with very little noticeable lean, at least from my vantage point. I knew he had the Best aftermarket suspension available, not to mention 30+ yrs of experience, but still, at the speeds we were taking these corners, I thought for sure he'd still have to be leaning more than I was at least witnessing.

You know how when we see someone else doing the same thing you are, but maybe a different or better way, and our natural inclination is to mirror their style to see if we too can do that particular activity better than what we had been doing? So yeah, I made sure their were no oncomming vehicles and I tried taking that very same corner without leaning as much as I normally would have and can you guess what happened??? Yup, I crossed over the center line about a foot & scared the cr*p out of myself, swearing to never do that again...... Lesson learned.

So, ever since then, I've just given in to the fact that, since I carry most of my weight in my upper torso, Teds Red Sled is TOP HEAVY & I have to do the side to side slide dance in the seat when aggressively taking on the twisties, which I'm fine with and have fun with it.

So now imagine my surprise, when I go to do my side to side slide dance in the twisties, but Teds Red Sled is now as flat & stable as can be, and I'm just hanging my but needlessly off the side of the seat feeling like an overcompensating fool that doesn't know how to ryde his (Teddy's) Spyder, even tho we're now on our 3rd year of ryding experience with well over 50 thousand miles. Go Figure!!!

Told ya folks, the difference this bar makes is like having an entirely different beast between your legs. Best BANG for the BUCK you can get!!!

:firstplace:Thank YOU Ron for an AWESOME Product :bowdown:

(PS.... This really isn't a complaint)
(PSS... Dragon anyone???)

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...8&d=1360323167
This is a pic showing our old stock Sway-Bar still in place right before the change

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/a...9&d=1360323172
This pic shows the New & Improved 'Beefier" Sway-Bar from BajaRon

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/06/ebuhavez.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/06/ejahe8av.jpg
:firstplace:Teddy Tested & Teddy Approved :firstplace:
02-09-2013, 11:42 AM
CyncySpyder

Just to clear up a few questions posted here

1st off, as Ron stated, NO, you don't have to remove the front trunk (Frunk) to do the install of his Sway-Bar. I had ours already removed to help with accessing other mods we were doing (removing stock airbox & resonator & installing KewlMetal Air Kit) when his New Sway-Bar arrived, so what better time to install. Not to mention, made for better to see pics to post for everybody else.

2nd, about Pops BumpSkid (aka:Possom Pusher) needing to be removed to install, I'm not sure. As others stated, probably yes, it would be in the way, but its an easy removal. Ours is still sitting on the shelf waiting to be installed, but we're waiting to put Teds New & Improved Red Sled back together until after we get the valves checked, which should be next week.

3rd, concerning 2013 Spyders. Ron & Pops will need to confirm this, but seeing as the frame geometry was significantly changed for ALL 2013 models, I would be inclined to think that this present sway-bar & Bump-Skid would not be a suitable fit & that they would have to make a new one or maybe just tweak these to fit, but they'll have to chime in with confirmation.

Hope this helps,
Dav n Ted~
02-09-2013, 12:33 PM
Bob Denman

Current "RonBars" wouldn't be proper on the 2013 models.
But you probably wouldn't even need them on the new bikes; they've improved them THAT much! :2thumbs:
I'd suggest a serious amount of saddle-time before tinkering with the front-end on any of the 2013s.

(Sorry Ron!) :opps:
02-09-2013, 01:03 PM
BajaRon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savant70648

What's the cost of the bars?

RS Bars - $179 delivered to 48 US States. Shipping added for world wide destinations.
RT Bars - $199 delivered to 48 US States. Shipping added for world wide destinations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitroCircus Spyder

Hi Ron,

That is great news that the trunk does not have to come off! My next question is if you have the bumpskid will there be a problem with that? :D

Some have done the install with the Bump Skid in place but I had to remove it when I did the install. It depends on access and most don't have a lift that will give them good access from the rear. It is not a big deal to remove the Bump Skid.

The Sway Bar itself is completely compatible with the Bump Skid installed.