Are these Front OEM Shocks 'SACHS' Shocks?

Are the shocks I have listed below "Sachs" Shocks??? Are you 100% sure???

I'm thinking about doing the H&R upgrade from Martin the Viogger, AND his H&R will ONLY work with Sachs Shocks...

THANK YOU, larryd

https://www.ebay.com/itm/27597004787...&segname=11051

LarryD, you don't say for what Spyder in your original post, if you're talking about the 2014 RT front shocks, then Martin's H&R fit them, but the 'Baja Ron Front Shock Preload adjusters' - https://www.ebay.com/str/bajaronsmotorcyclegear will give you tremendous adjustability for less.
I've run them on both my '13 RTL and '18 RTL stock shocks with great results. The H&R springs are better than the OEM springs, but you'll still have just the one setting.

Friend has been riding his 2021 Spyder RT with the BajaRon preload adjusters that I installed shortly after he bought the Spyder. Also at that similar time, installed the BajaRon original style swaybar.

Last week though, my friend ordered up the front springs from Martin and ordered his floating brake rotors.

Expecting an easy install of the springs, removing the preload collars while installing new springs. Then will dig out the tools for a complete flush and bleed of the brake fluid, followed by setting up the ROLO alignment equipment and realign the Spyder as needed for the new springs.
Should be a good upgrade for him being a larger guy. If needed, will make preload spacers to dial in the front ride height.

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Originally Posted by DGoebel

LarryD, you don't say for what Spyder in your original post, if you're talking about the 2014 RT front shocks, then Martin's H&R fit them, but the 'Baja Ron Front Shock Preload adjusters' - https://www.ebay.com/str/bajaronsmotorcyclegear will give you tremendous adjustability for less.
I've run them on both my '13 RTL and '18 RTL stock shocks with great results. The H&R springs are better than the OEM springs, but you'll still have just the one setting.

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These will be used on my 2014 RTS...I now have the BRP Fox shocks on...I'm out of ride height adjustment on my Foxes...I put the Fox shocks on after my Elka's were again leaking oil after the third fix...I also have a set of 2014 OEM shocks with the BAJARON adjustors that I've used and liked, maybe I should just go back to them??? Does anyone know if you can use the BAJARON adjustors with Martins H & R springs???? THANK YOU, larryd

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Originally Posted by DGoebel

LarryD, you don't say for what Spyder in your original post, if you're talking about the 2014 RT front shocks, then Martin's H&R fit them, but the 'Baja Ron Front Shock Preload adjusters' - https://www.ebay.com/str/bajaronsmotorcyclegear will give you tremendous adjustability for less.
I've run them on both my '13 RTL and '18 RTL stock shocks with great results. The H&R springs are better than the OEM springs, but you'll still have just the one setting.

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H&R springs are quite a bit stiffer (72%) than the OEM springs. Progressively wound in the early stroke and linear wound in between. I thought about BR spring adjusters, but decided against them. You're just compressing an already too soft spring and reducing spring travel. Sharp bumps will become even sharper.

If you use the BR height adjuster will the spyder need aligning afterwards assuming you set the bike to the stiffest setting for heavier riders? If the Martin springs are H&R can we folks in the USA order from H&R direct ( part number? ) Will the Spyder need aligning after the Martin spring install?

OP those shocks you listed are used and from China. Maybe look in the for sale listings here.

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Originally Posted by WRCLVR

If you use the BR height adjuster will the spyder need aligning afterwards assuming you set the bike to the stiffest setting for heavier riders? If the Martin springs are H&R can we folks in the USA order from H&R direct ( part number? ) Will the Spyder need aligning after the Martin spring install?

OP those shocks you listed are used and from China. Maybe look in the for sale listings here.

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H&R springs are not available via H&R USA. I'm guessing that Martin has an agreement with H&R parent company.

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Originally Posted by larryd

These will be used on my 2014 RTS...I now have the BRP Fox shocks on...I'm out of ride height adjustment on my Foxes...I put the Fox shocks on after my Elka's were again leaking oil after the third fix...I also have a set of 2014 OEM shocks with the BAJARON adjustors that I've used and liked, maybe I should just go back to them??? Does anyone know if you can use the BAJARON adjustors with Martins H & R springs???? THANK YOU, larryd

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If you already have the upgraded shocks, and need more spring under you, keep the good dampers and buy two firmer springs for a lot less than the HR springs.
The Fox upgrade for the RT, we also have on our Spyder. I believe the springs are BRP stuff on the Fox damper. If you remove a spring, have it tested for spring rate, then compare dimensions at Eiback or Hyperco, and buy two firmer springs.