Initial test of Monster Fuel ECM upgrade
Time & light rain weather limited my testing to 1st & 2nd gear. I would give it a 25% increase in power to the the new 8600 rpm redline. There is a definite increase in power. 25% increase for approx $400 including freight is a really good deal. I've spent $1900 to go from 170 rwhp to 190 rwhp on my 1st hayabusa. Over $10K + on my turbo hayabusa. Brisk would be my definition of upgraded ECM acceleration. Everything else other than new 8600 rpm redline & improved acceleration appear to have remained the same. More info to follow with time & weather permitting.
Darrell
Only about an inch of throttle travel
We only have just over an inch of total throttle travel so 80% vs. 60% is only a little sooner. The intake honk of the stock F3 starts around 5,000 rpm but only when you roll the throttle open 80%. Flashed it's just a 1/4" sooner in throttle travel. If you have seen the video of the test RT You'll notice on two of the three hole shots the nanny doesn't kick in with the 25' burn outs. With 25% more power across the RPM range even if the nanny kicks in you still are putting out more power than stock. Please allow a tank and 1/2 half of gas before you get full results. The flashed ECU needs to collect HO2S readings to load up the correct fuel mapping. This means you have to red line the bike as it needs that data.
The sweet spot for the F3 platform starts at 4,800 rpm then the energy continues to build all the way to red line.
Have fun, be safe and post your results
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hypurone
I'm waiting impatiently for mine to arrive! :pray: Do you feel that you def have to use 60% throttle to access the fun? Or is it more towards 50%? Did you find as others have that the nanny is less intrusive for both inline AND corner shenanigans after the flash? Or is it evident for inline interaction only?
Exactly on course for performance
Relax, Let me help with understanding on how this process works. This is NOT a plug and play performance gain. I tell everyone three things.
1. The ECU flash gains are much more noticeable for the 1330 motors that have the 79 tooth sprockets as they are the most restricted. The RT owner will notice the performance gains starting around 4,000 rpm. For the 1330 motors with the 89 tooth sprocket the real gains start to stand out around 6,800 to red line. The reason for this is because the Stock F3 winds out the first three gears so quickly now that unless you race for a living you won't really notice a couple of bike lengths.
2. For the F3S platform, and somewhat for the RT platform you have to have a need for the flash. I had a Daytona owner pm me saying he just doesn't feel anything. I asked where he is shifting and he replied between 3K and 4K. If you don't have the need for two up passing power on an RT or shift your F3S routinely above 5,000 rpm, the benefits of the flash won't rock you world.
3. It takes at least a tank and 1/2 of gas for the finale mapping to START to be in place. If you live in the city and are following friends around you won't be spending as much time ABOVE 60% throttle as someone who rides solo and lives in the rural area. The ECU is collecting Air to Fuel readings and is only getting the readings it needs to make adjustments above 60% throttle because below it is still stock. Can-Am programmed the ECU to make ONLY small fuel adjustments based on hundreds of input readings and this is a good thing.
So here is what you WILL get with a flash when finale mapping is in place. It takes between 300 to 500 miles for the ECU to collect the data it needs to make the finale mapping.
For an RT owner you will have huge roll on power improvements as you won't need to down shift as much to get the bike moving for two up passing or for some spirited riding with fast friends.
For the 89 tooth F3 owners you will be hard pressed to notice the gains while winding out the first three gears. The bike is just a LITTLE quicker in that area mostly because the stock bike is already very quick at slower speeds. Where the finale flash results really start to shine is when the F3S is under FULL load. This is higher speeds and 4th, 5th and 6th gears. If you have the Cat IN Place with an open exhaust pipe you will start to notice the bike is more willing to smoke the tire off the line and will hear some NEW tire chirping in 2nd gear acceleration. Then when you take a sweeping corner in 4th gear around 6,800 rpm and hold the throttle open the bike just snaps out the RPMs to red line. If you selected the stock 8,100 flash and were riding next to a totally stock F3S you would pull about 4 to 6 bike lengths. The advantage is even bigger in 5th and 6th gear for side by side.
At the end of the day, a flashed Spyder is only modestly faster than it was stock. There is still SPEED RESTRICTIONS keeping the 1330 motor from reaching full potential. I am just a tester for the ECU flashes and I have tested over 8 ECUs which are trying to remove the speed restrictions with no success. My understanding of this complex lingering task is that Can-Am intentionally disguised where this programming is in the ECU code. The Monster fuel team literally has spent huge time and resources on the speed restriction goal
When the upgrade ECU flash that finally gets the speed restrictions removed becomes available ANYONE who has paid for a flash gets the upgrade for free for the cost of shipping.
When the speed restrictions get removed and F3S will pull 5th and 6th gear cleanly to red line. Right now all F3S stall at 7,500 rpm / 105 MPH as the butterflies are starting to close down you fun.
Hope this helps
Dennis